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fmlxso

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I need help identifying if a cam that someone is trying to sell me a cam out of a 1993 cobra, I can't find any stamps on the cam, i am wondering if anyone knows how to tell if it is a cobra cam. thanks
 

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Look to see if has "F3ZE-CA" on it. That is the part number.
 

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just to let u know its pretty much the same size as a 351w cam
 
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The cam really doesn't have any numbers on it is the HO firing order but it doesn't have the same markings as a stock HO.
 

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Aren't those cams the same as the HO cams they just have higher lift because the of 1.7 roller rockers?
 

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Aren't those cams the same as the HO cams they just have higher lift because the of 1.7 roller rockers?
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No they are different.
 

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fmlxso said:
I need help identifying if a cam that someone is trying to sell me a cam out of a 1993 cobra, I can't find any stamps on the cam, i am wondering if anyone knows how to tell if it is a cobra cam. thanks
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Ugh, throw it in the trash. That cam is nothing special really.

It's actually nicknamed the "emmissions" cam and was the same camshaft used in the 91-93 Thunderbird/cougar with the 5.0 HO.

Just because it came out of a Cobra means nothing.

Think of it this way....would you pay money for a used cam out of a '91 Cougar???
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
....and was the same camshaft used in the 91-93 Thunderbird/cougar with the 5.0 HO.
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That is true. It's not particularly special. The extra lift the Cobra had was in fact from the 1.7 rockers.
 

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Originally developed for the 1993 Cobra's production GT-40 V8, this grind was also phased into OE Thunderbird/Cougar service during 1993 model year. The same cam was also used in the 1993 Cobra R-Model and was phased into the 1994-95 run of (Ford of Australia's) 5-liter V-8 Falcons. Compared to the F1ZE H.O. grind, this cam produced less horsepower but more torque.
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I was just wondering because I could get one cheap and I don't feel like pulling my other cam before the engine swap.
 

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You are wasting time and money on a used cobra cam. If you are going to do a cam swap, at least go to an alphabet cam (at min) and get some thing out of it.
 

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It has less duration but a little more lift....you could say it's a bit milder than the stock 5.0L H.O. camshaft.
 

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I agree with all. The cam is no better than the 5.0 cam. If you just add 1.7 RR's you can get .30 of lift on a stock HO cam and get better results. Other wise, buy a b cam or maybe an F cam. Anything higher you will have to dish the pistons because of the higher lift. Add the 1.7 RR's and a B cam and you should be happy.

Just pass on the cobra cam, I had a 93 Cobra cam and sold on Ebay for like $50 before installing it. That would have been a waste. I found out what everyone is telling you now and changed my mind. Now I have a 95 Cobra and need a bigger cam. Emissions cam for sure!!!
 

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Weird.... I would be happy to duplicate these results.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2003/06/afrinstall/index1.shtml

All with a perfectly smooth idle Cobra Cam.
 

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89sleeper said:
Weird.... I would be happy to duplicate these results.
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2003/06/afrinstall/index1.shtml

All with a perfectly smooth idle Cobra Cam.
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I think those results had a whole lot more to do with those heads then the cam. As I read more about the AFR heads I become more impressed with them all the time. I see them posting big numbers with the stock cam, 1.7s and the Cobra intake.
 

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85-88 HO cam - 266/266 at .006" lift; lobe lift - .278"; .444" lift w/1.6 rockers

89-95 HO cam - 276/266 at .006" lift; lobe lift - .278"; .444" lift w/1.6 rockers

Cobra/93-on Cougar/T'bird cam - 270/270 at .006" lift; .282" lobe lift; .479" lift w/1.7 rockers.

Just so you know what those spec differences are. At .006" lift, the Cobra cam has about 3 degrees less overlap than the 85-88, about 6 degrees less than the 89-95. According to Ford's data (89Sleeper's footnote comes from that) the 85-88 all else equal on the stock set ups makes the most HP (about 3 more than the 89-95), and the Cobra cam makes slightly more peak torque and slightly less peak HP.

5L5 - note - it wasn't phased into the T'bird/Cougar until 93 - Ford saw it helped with low end torque over the HO cam, which helped move the porker t'birds and Cougars off the line.

I think the Cobra cam is unfairly maligned; with better heads/intake/exhaust, I think it would make a fine street cam especially for a heavier vert. Just don't expect it to still be making power at 5500 rpm.
 
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A E cam would be nice!
 
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I guess I will pass on the cam and just take out f-cam that is in my car now.
thanks for your input
 
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