Code 211? PIP Erratic

toppdogg_1

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I got the codes ran on my car and it came back with a 211 PIP Erratic. The car has some problems starting at times but seems to drive fine. What exactly is the PIP and how much would it cost to replace it?
 
toppdogg_1 said:
I got the codes ran on my car and it came back with a 211 PIP Erratic. The car has some problems starting at times but seems to drive fine. What exactly is the PIP and how much would it cost to replace it?

I think it is the "profile ignition pickup" sensor, or something like that. It's in the distributor, and I THINK that it tells your tach how fast the motor is spinning. My tach started jumping around erratically this afternoon, I think it is my PIP going south on me. Hopefully somebody more knowledgeable will chime in.
 
i just looked around the forums some more and found out that it is a senor in the distributor like you said, and that if it is going that it is best to get a new distributor because the sensor may be cheap but you need to tear down the dizzy and then rebuild it after putting in the new sensor
 
Yep, I wont try to spout off into because I am conversant with the fox PIP and the SN PIP actually works a little differently (it can use the raising and falling edge as a means of calculation IIRC).

The PIP is responsible for base spark and injector timing.

When one has a bad PIP, there should be no spark and no fuel injector pulsing (a bad TFI gives no spark but does not affect injector pulsing).

Some folks breeze through installing a new PIP and some struggle (getting the gear back on and aligned can be a pain). Were it me, I would try to do the PIP (a bearing splitter really helps with the task) and if it wont go, get a reman'd/new dizzy. At some point I would have a machine shop do the PIP in the old one so you have a back up dizzy.

Or a machine shop should be able to do the entire PIP swap.

Good luck.