Coil Over Suspension

ER2006 · Nov 30, 2006

I'm going to put Coil Overs on my 06 GT. Does anybody have any experiance with either the Eibach or HR systems? Looking at both set up's,,, I like the Eibach because the front coils are smaller diameter and I should be able to put a 10 inch wheel on the car.

stang99svt · Dec 15, 2006

We acquired and have been using the HR coil over system on the Niche performance Industries race/show sema vehicle.
The kit is very nice, high quality, installation was as simple as I’ve ever documented for any mustang model year I’ve worked on so far.
the only downside is the struts and shocks are not adjustable for rebound which I have found is needed when you "slamming" down your vehicle at the race track or even with the new wide body kit we developed. Because of the wheel wells and how to kit is at this time I think we need the ability to adjust rebound so not to hurt the wheels or any of the fiberglass front quarter panels.

ER2006 · Dec 20, 2006

Appriciate your response.

The photo's tell me that the rear system of the H&R is not a true coil over. The Eibach is. What made you decide to go with the H&R.

Mr_Q · Dec 21, 2006

True. A lot of coilover systems claim to be so when they are not "complete" systems. They are not lying but they are not being entirily accurate either.

The biggest reason I bought the HnR quasi-coil-over system is the price. I didn't need adjustable dampening. Just ride height control really. So I saved the $500.

The adjustable spring perch on the rear is a bonus and most front-end only coil-over systems do come with that nice and needed upgrade for the rear. Along with their shock and spring.

Now for my experience with my HnR system...

CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK

"WTF is that sound coming from the passenger rear??"

[remove HnR shocks, reinstalled stock shocks]

CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK

"WTF is that sound STILL coming from the rear??"

I am in the middle of diagnosing the issue with a local installer and Maximum Motorsports who are helping with the potential warranty work for HnR.

I really hope we can find out what-the-hell is clunking when their system is installed. It is the rear passenger side only...which is most odd.

50 Slow · Dec 28, 2006

Man that GT500 looking kit is sweet. Ya'll gonna sell those?

FNG 2001 · Dec 29, 2006

Just curious- Why a coilover set up? Do you need it for some special reason? I put a tein coilover set up on my last car and absolutely hated it. I will never put a coilover set up on any of my cars now. Very uncomfortable ride.

Mr_Q · Dec 29, 2006

I prefer the coilover adjustability. Not only for ride height but dampening. I also love the handling and respone they give.

Most coilover kits are too stiff as they are intended for light track duty if not full on race day fun. This is why I went with the H&Rs. KW also makes a nice streetable coilover too with their KW1s.

TEINS are VERY stiff, even on their softest setting. I would never put those on my car. You really have to research them before deciding.

My only regret of course is that I got a bum H&R shock in this install. But it's being worked out.

8850 · Dec 29, 2006

The pics look like they are aluminum. Are they lighter than stock? How is the ride with those springs compared to stock? Stiffer, softer, same?

Mr_Q · Dec 29, 2006

The H&R kit is about 50lbs. The stock bits that come off are around 80lbs.

When the ride height is at a "nice level" and not the "slammed level" it's only slightly stiffer than the stock GT with 18" wheels. However there is little or no body roll and virtually zero nose dive on heavy braking. All very nice.

My opinions come from driving on the crappy SOCAL highways and side street too. Potholes-cracks-no-grading-city.

8850 · Dec 29, 2006

Mr_Q said:
The H&R kit is about 50lbs. The stock bits that come off are around 80lbs.

When the ride height is at a "nice level" and not the "slammed level" it's only slightly stiffer than the stock GT with 18" wheels. However there is little or no body roll and virtually zero nose dive on heavy braking. All very nice.

My opinions come from driving on the crappy SOCAL highways and side street too. Potholes-cracks-no-grading-city.

Thanks, that's quite a weight savings. Are they aluminum or is most of the savings in the smaller springs?

SinCityVogel · Dec 31, 2006

Iv been looking at the tokico kit. they have two kits the d-spec and the coil over kit.

Mr_Q · Dec 31, 2006

Aluminum, springs and some other bits that are optimized.

baylor2010 · Jan 1, 2007

Sounds great..... But how does it handle.... Im assuming better than just a eibach pro kit.....

Mr_Q · Jan 1, 2007

I should say here again that I did have an initial installation issue but it was soon resolved.

Handling wise coilovers, at least the H&R and KW systems, make your Mustang handle like a BMW. Or at least as close as it can, heh.

Listen, I love ford, always have. They make great muscle cars and even a fine sedan now and then. But they are COMPLETELY CLUELESS on how to setup a suspension on a car. Luckily we have the aftermarket. Which I think Ford has counted on, heh. Kudos to Canadian company Multimatic for doing wonders with the FR500GT and the resulting street version handling pack.

Even a simple spring change over like that Pro Kit from Eibach will do wonders for what Ford put on the car out of the box.

I picture Ford's suspension division is a room filled with hanging tires and bananna peels.

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