Cops

[Outlaw97GT]

I really hate to disappoint you, and you probably will NOT believe me, but I do not change lanes without signals (unless it's to cut off someone that did it to me) and I have probably rolled through a total of 5 or 6 stop signs in life. I take the extra time to make sure my car bucks back at a stop sign to ensure that I stopped all the way. As for the yellow lines, not unless it is an accident. I do not pass in no-passing zones. Most of the laws I break are not accidental, like speeding and rapid acceleration.

Im the same way, well wrote...
Good ole Texas drivers

 

[tomustang]

we all break the law hundreds of times a day.... when you dive home from work today... you will do at least 10 traffic violations on your trip....

You will change lanes without signal, cross solid yellow lines, roll thru stop signs and so on.... think of all the things you have got away with.... and you cry the one time you get pulled over....

Nope, sorry. that's just you, don't speak for everyone kthanxbye

 

[AlexIX]

Just like all of the cops I see pull all of this same stuff and more on almost a daily basis. Common sense says.. if you want people to respect you and the traffic laws you're trying to enforce, try following them and abiding by ALL of them yourself. Do as I say, not as I do People are watching. Lead by example.

I feel I should let you know that police are exempt from many traffic laws to respond to calls quickly, lights on or not. They will use their common-sense in regards to what is safe or not when en route to a call. They are trained in high-speed driving, the general public is not. I'd bet you would want the police to get to you as fast as they can when you need them, even if it's not an emergency.

 

[tomustang]

I feel I should let you know that police are exempt from many traffic laws to respond to calls quickly, lights on or not.
They will use their common-sense in regards to what is safe or not when en route to a call.

More regards to non-call police driving, the cops who blow though stop lights because they don't want to sit there, it's very common. sure it's done in a safe manner, most of the times a cop will flick the lights and blow by but there's STILL a chance of an accident for not abiding to the law. Laws are set for safty purposes

They are trained in high-speed driving

not alot of them, and most of that 'high-speed' training is from watching videos

 

[billfisher]

my brother in law has been pulled over for going 85+.

the DPS guy was like "doh" when he saw tony's uniform.


he thought he had a good one. of course it is common courtesy to not ticket each other. i couldnt care less. just make friends with the locals and they will let you go too. go for a "citizen observer" ride and they will get to know you. you can do that with any department anywhere. background chack and disclaimers and you go for a cool ride. i've done it plenty of times. one of my college buddies is a sergeant here now, i need to go with him for a few busts. rock out.

 

[rickster99]

my brother in law has been pulled over for going 85+.

the DPS guy was like "doh" when he saw tony's uniform.


he thought he had a good one. of course it is common courtesy to not ticket each other. i couldnt care less. just make friends with the locals and they will let you go too. go for a "citizen observer" ride and they will get to know you. you can do that with any department anywhere. background chack and disclaimers and you go for a cool ride. i've done it plenty of times. one of my college buddies is a sergeant here now, i need to go with him for a few busts. rock out.

Yea I think you are right in certain respects. I find it that as I get older and obviously I am more mature cops tend to respect you more. However I do remember when I was younger down here in South Florida cops hasle kids alot.

 

[merc123]

I take the amount of times I didn't get caught compared to how many times I did and it doesn't bother me. You can't tell me that if you were put into that position that you wouldn't have an attitude of some sorts. Since I've been in Iraq I feel that I'm owed a little bit more than the average person. Do you think I shouldn't be entitled to anything more than the person that didn't risk their life for you?

 

[rickster99]

I take the amount of times I didn't get caught compared to how many times I did and it doesn't bother me. You can't tell me that if you were put into that position that you wouldn't have an attitude of some sorts. Since I've been in Iraq I feel that I'm owed a little bit more than the average person. Do you think I shouldn't be entitled to anything more than the person that didn't risk their life for you?

Well I dont know if I agree with you on that. Every person that gets into the military does it for a purpose. Although I am thankful that there are soilders to defend us, noone goes to the military for the hell of it. Usually there is a purpose whether it is to get money to go to school or just to get paid or get a skill. I know this because I almost went into the military after highschool and then I decided nope I will go to college instead. The military is a dual purpose opportunity gig. The goverment owns you for x amount of years and in return you get something from the government ... just like leasing a car. You get a car and you pay the bank part of the value of the car. Its a business deal between you and the government cause I surely know that there isnt a single person that was forced to join the military so sorry I dont agree with you.

 

[caship]

unless it's to cut off someone that did it to me)

Sorry this is so late in the discussion.... the above is reckless driving / aggressive driving (against the law)

I was just stating that most... if not all will violate some law while driving. You may not even realize you did it... or know it's a law..till someone pulls you over. Even the best of driver - safest drivers do... disagree all you want but its true.

While I don't agree with the methods some cops use to get arrests.... well I will leave it at that... I don't agree with some of the methods cops use... I don't us them.

As for the traffic stop in the traffic lane .... the stop ends where the person pulled over stops.... if a cop lights you up it is your duty to pull somewhere safe... think of it this way.... he pulls you over and asks you to exit the vehicle... do YOU want to be standing there . Put on your blinker to aknowledge the officer and slow down safely pulling to a safe location. The cop doesn't want you to stop there..... but he also doesn't want to approach the car twice either.


As for driving schools.... I know of no Academy that doesn't have an Emergency Vehicle Operators Course.... that requires X number of classroom hours and X number of vehicle hours. The days of just watching a video ... are over.

 

[#1922]

not alot of them, and most of that 'high-speed' training is from watching videos

It's that type of unknowledgable post that gives GOOD cops a bad rap. I'd be curious to know what agency's teach their cops pursuit driving by watching a video.

 

[TonyG]

http://mfile.akamai.com/12918/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2005/0901/4923861.200k.asx

 

[caship]

http://mfile.akamai.com/12918/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2005/0901/4923861.200k.asx

I love gotcha stories... they are great. I don't approve of the fire hydrant one.... the fire department would just push the car out of the way if needed... boo on the officer.. he would have to explain that one to his Sgt.

As for the fire lane... well it may say fire lane on the ground but there are no red curbs marking it (required by law in my state) as well as no sign designating that it is a fire lane (required by law in my state) even the fire hydrant isn't marked right!.

What funny is the emphasis that the report ... puts... on ... the story. Like... he... has found capone! BTW ... no one has to tell the media the truth... but the officer handled it badly after he was caught with his pants down.

 

[tomustang]

It's that type of unknowledgable post that gives GOOD cops a bad rap. I'd be curious to know what agency's teach their cops pursuit driving by watching a video.

truth, read it and eat it, you think small town cops go though the top training

 

[caship]

truth, read it and eat it, you think small town cops go though the top training

Like all State agencies... you must be trained and certified as a police officer:

You list you are from PA... well All officers must be certified by MPOETC and in their academy you get the following training:

40 hours EVOC(Emergency Vehicle Operators Course)- 20 hours class - 20 hours pratical

16 hours Patrol Procedures - 12 class / 4 practical

8 hours Patrol activities & Incidents 6 class / 2 practial

12 hours Monitoring traffic / ped traffic 10 class / 2 practical

16 hours Vehicle stops 8 class / 8 practical

2 hours Roadblocks / barricades


This is usually 2 full weeks of any academy... State Troopers have a bit more time in the drivers seat but they are more road "based"


These times do not take into account final practicals before graduation as well as possible follow on training while with a FTO (Field training officer). There is also EVOC that you have to take each year of every couple of years to recert of refresh.

 

[#1922]

truth, read it and eat it, you think small town cops go though the top training

Well, I don't consider BASIC pursuit training as top training and according to caship, ALL officers in PA are required to go through some type of PRACTICAL training. Here in Florida, we have pretty much the same training. If your a cop or trainer in your area, then I apoligize for your lack of training because I would hate to learn EVOC by watching a video. If your not, then :Zip2:

 

[Mel96GT]

All I can say is cops have pulled me over a few times over the years and they mostly let me go. I am very respectful and flashing my military ID card sorta' helps (nowadays!).

 

[caship]

Play day at EVOC.... If I get a chance I will load some videos from when I went thru EVOC (with my small department)

http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Cops/1/cf3d05e0-0995-44a5-92ba-8a5046abc2da.htm