Disc Brake recommendations for '65 cruiser

Fang · Nov 28, 2006

Disc Brake recommendations for '65 cruiser

So I'm getting ready to finally (after 10 years of resto) redo my suspension and brakes. I'm going to install a Total Control Products suspension system in front, and probably an 8" in back. I've got 16" Torque Thrust IIs for the car as well. I don't need a race setup for the brakes, it's a street cruiser with planned 400 or so Horsepower.

What Disc brake system do you guys like? Total Control, Baer, Wilwood, SBCC, Global West, JMC?

I need help here, my head is swimming.

I'm looking for good performance, probably 12" fronts and 11" rears. Good looks with the cross drilled and zinc washed ( I know I don't need it for perfomance).

Very high on the list is a turnkey installation package with all the parts at a competitive price.

Thanks in advance

jcode68 · Nov 28, 2006

I am thrilled with the performance of my SSBC front disc swap I recently added to my 68. I went with the Force 10 4 piston calipers, powdercoated in red. The rotors are zinc washed to prevent corrosion. One of my requirements was to retain my 15 inch Tourque Thrust wheels and this kit did that. I also converted to power booster (non SSBC) and the performance is better than the brakes on my 2000 Mustang GT. Brake kit was complete and easy install. The booster was another stort, but unrelated to the SSBC kit. Good luck with your choice.

Fang · Nov 28, 2006

hey thanks for the data point jcode, would you be willing to tell us how much you paid and where?

Also, did you do the rears, and if so did that go smoothly as well?

Cheers

jcode68 · Nov 29, 2006

I got mine from Summit, here is the link to the kit:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SSB%2DA120%2D2&FROM=MG

When I ordered this through Summit a few months back, they didn't have a part number for the red powdercoat option and had to special order it. I believe the price was also lower by almost $100, but would have to locate and check my receipts to be sure. I haven't done the rears yet, and frankly not sure I plan to. The performance currently is awesome, so the only reason for doing the rears in my opinion would be for looks. I have other projects on my list before this would bubble to the top.

LMan · Nov 29, 2006

www.discbrakeswap.com

180 Out · Nov 29, 2006

LMan said:
www.discbrakeswap.com

Wow, that's a deal for $545:

That includes new spindles, something I haven't seen in any other kit. Ahh, but the calipers aren't red.

BullittStangV8 · Nov 29, 2006

Nothing some high temp caliper paint wont fix...

geostang351 · Nov 29, 2006

I just bought the slotted rotors from him I would have gotten the calipers too but I got those at autozone cheaper and without paying for shipping. Coincidenlty, I just painted them red this past weekend with high temp caliper paint. I'll post pics tonight!

Fang · Nov 29, 2006

Anybody else out there used any of the other manufacturers? I've heard Wilwood can be a difficult install, any feedback?

geostang351 · Nov 29, 2006

My install with Degins rotors and autozone calipers painted with red caliper paint

brin0357 · Nov 29, 2006

Thats just granada stuff... Hit up the junk yard and get it cheap, get the tie rod end as well because the ball joint is larger than stock. Why spend all that money on a street cruiser??

DukeGnarley · Nov 29, 2006

I've had good luck with the baer kit. the install was just about as easy as you can get, although they were a little pricey. got them from www.streetortrack.com. Excellent people to deal with.

MarksFastBack · Nov 29, 2006

180 Out said:
Wow, that's a deal for $545:

That includes new spindles, something I haven't seen in any other kit. Ahh, but the calipers aren't red.

IT IS NOW $445.00 plus shipping

Bought mine today w/65-66 geometry (newly redesigned).

MarksFastBack · Nov 29, 2006

brin0357 said:
Thats just granada stuff... Hit up the junk yard and get it cheap, get the tie rod end as well because the ball joint is larger than stock. Why spend all that money on a street cruiser??

...um...because it is driven,saftey.

...strange question...retorical...

65ShelbyClone · Nov 29, 2006

Man, even $550 is good for an all new/rebuilt Granada setup. Lets see....I have over $80 in the calipers and hoses, 70 in cheap rotors, 25 for the Maverick MC, 40 for rod ends, 60 for FMS prop valve, and about 60 in bearings and seals. Thats 2/3 the cost of degins' stuff and I got all the old worn-out parts and hardware for free!

I'd get a conversion from degins as a gift for my old man, but I'm getting laid off tomorrow! (seriously)

LMan · Nov 30, 2006

brin0357 said:
Thats just granada stuff... Hit up the junk yard and get it cheap, get the tie rod end as well because the ball joint is larger than stock. Why spend all that money on a street cruiser??

Granada stuff is fine with Degins' revised geometry...and you'll never beat $445 for all-new components plus a prop valve/splash shields/ loaded calipers, even. All in one box. It's the 'all-in-one kit' people have wanted for years on end (for a street car).

I'll take that easy over draggin-a over junkyards, haggling with Bubba, then cleaning, tossing the worn items, calling Autozone, researching part numbers, arguing with the EMO slacker at the Autozone counter.....

degins · Dec 3, 2006

LMan said:
Granada stuff is fine with Degins' revised geometry...and you'll never beat $445 for all-new components plus a prop valve/splash shields/ loaded calipers, even. All in one box. It's the 'all-in-one kit' people have wanted for years on end (for a street car).

I'll take that easy over draggin-a over junkyards, haggling with Bubba, then cleaning, tossing the worn items, calling Autozone, researching part numbers, arguing with the EMO slacker at the Autozone counter.....

LMan,
I could offer this kit for $250 and still have many people exclaiming that they could find the same thing on a junkyard Granada for $200, or could install Scarebird for ...

I am pleased to be able to make the purchase a little easier to those at the core of our hobby. I intend to end the sale on the 15th of December.

ultrastang · Dec 3, 2006

degins said:
LMan,
I could offer this kit for $250 and still have many people exclaiming that they could find the same thing on a junkyard Granada for $200, or could install Scarebird for ...

I am pleased to be able to make the purchase a little easier to those at the core of our hobby. I intend to end the sale on the 15th of December.

Before 2002, all the bracketry and mod stuff I was doing was purely for my own private use, or stuff I was making for use on a few close friend's Mustangs/Fords. Until I started selling rear disc conversion brackets nearly 5 years ago, I had no idea, before that time, what all was involved in designing/producing a component for sale at the consumer level. When you are an individual making one-off stuff for your own private use, you may be able to put things together very cheaply. But, if you are mass producing something, the extremely "cheap-factor" may not be possible to the end user.

Granted, there are companies selling stuff that is very high-priced (over priced), but a lot of that has to do with buying a "name" (i.e. Wilwood, Baer, SSBC, etc.).

Obviously, someone that's in business cannot sell their product for less than what they have in it, or even sell it at cost. --If they did, they wouldn't be in business for very long.

I put Granada discs on my '68 Mustang back in 1990. I paid ~$100 for the Granada wrecking yard donors. After I went through the setup replacing rotors, seals, pads, bearings, etc., I had over $500 dollars in it with used spindles, calipers, & caliper anchor brackets. --Degin's stuff is ALL brand new castings. It would be very hard, in the end, to beat his price buying used stuff.

www.ultrastang.com

65ShelbyClone · Dec 3, 2006

ultrastang said:
Degin's stuff is ALL brand new castings. It would be very hard, in the end, to beat his price buying used stuff.

+1

All it takes is a little simple addition to figure out it's a deal. If I paid $200 for all the old parts, I would have over $500 in the conversion after buying the replacement and rebuilt parts like calipers, hoses, rod ends, etc......and I still have old rusty spindles and caliper brackets.

ultrastang · Dec 3, 2006

65ShelbyClone said:
+1

All it takes is a little simple addition to figure out it's a deal. If I paid $200 for all the old parts, I would have over $500 in the conversion after buying the replacement and rebuilt parts like calipers, hoses, rod ends, etc......and I still have old rusty spindles and caliper brackets.

--Exactly.

And additionally, anyone that's buying/installing used spindles --(particularly if you are going to open track race the setup), should have the used spindles magnafluxed checked for stress cracks prior to putting them on/using them.

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