Drove a GT with a Roush S/Cer....

PoopDawg said:

Good lord, get a hobby man! The Roush kit is NOT worth the money... It doesn't make enough power out of the box to support it's $5,000 price tag. I think everyone can agree with that.

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More personal bias with nothing to back your opinion again I see. You're truely a wealth of info. I'd hardly call 445hp/408lbs/ft of torque right out of the box a waste of money....and from what I've seen its currently priced less than any other intercooled Positive Displacement blower on the market (with he exception of the Magnacharger).

If the Roush isn’t worth the money, then what makes the other bigger systems worth it if you aren’t able to push them to their full potential with the stock block anyway? On the stock bottom end they’re making the same horsepower/torque levels, running the same 12-second time slips, and getting the same “ooooh’s and ahhhhh’s” at the car shows.

Put it down all you like, but thus far but instead of posting anything to back your point, you've provided nothing but "comments from the peanut gallery" after one crappy test drive. Again....weak sauce.

Five Oh Brian said:

On that point, I agree. Not worth $5K for what you get. I don't think calling it a turd was fair, but I concur that $5K is too much for what you get with the Roush S/C. Cost per horsepower gained is staggering ($43 / hp).

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I guess you could break it down that way if you'd like, but at $5,000 it would actually be closer to $35/hp. And again, keep in mind that all of the other Positive Displacement kits in the same intercooled trim are putting out roughly about the same power levels (+/-15hp).

Also remember again that all of the current PD blowers available currently are fully capable of approaching the limit of what the stock bottom end will handle (with little more than a pulley swap and a retune). So spending the extra money on a blower that’s capable of making 50, 75 or even 100hp more (after other supporting components are upgraded at the buyers additional expense of course) isn't really worth the money, since you're not able to utilize said extra potential until fortifying the bottom end anyway.....which lets be honest.....most people don't.

Like I said before.....gonna build the bottom, go with the bigger blower that’s gonna open up its lungs when stepped on. Gonna stick with the stock bottom end.....flip a coin and pick the one you think is prettiest.....bud don’t discount the little guy because someone who doesn’t know any better is trying to convince you the big blower are the only ones capable of making decent power. That extra money saved on the "little" Roush goes a long way towards putting some extra gas in your tank on the weekends.

Five Oh Brian said:

On that same point, my Vortech V-2 (non-cooled) isn't all that powerful either (about 440 flywheel hp), but the entire system (blower, tuner, fuel pumps, bigger injectors, etc.) only cost $3700, so I'd say it was definitely worth the money when you factor the modest cost per horsepower that I paid ($26 / hp).

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To be fair though....Centrifugal blowers have always been cheaper than Positive Displacement kits. Its kind of apples vs. oranges by comparison? The horsepower/dollar arguement is always going to be lower for a Centi.