DSS SuperPro or FRPP M-6007-Z347 or ProCharger

[Dropped95]

This winter i was going to start on my engine build. The stock engine only has 60,000 miles but a buddy of mine bought a GT500 and did a few bolt ons so my new singular goal in life is to beat him with less money. The drivetrain is solid so i figured i would stay with the stock T5 and Diff until they start giving trouble, I already have an idea what i'm going to upgrade to, but I wanted to get 450 out of the motor i have or upgrade to a good crate engine. The FRPP crate or the DSS motor complete will cost about the same at 9g... i think, but a Procharger D1SC is about 5g but i would think i would benefit from some other upgrades to the stock motor if i did this. I just know if i could safely get 450 out of the stock block and what the most economical choice is.

Anyone have some experience with DSS or used a FRPP crate? Are Prochargers worth the coin on a stock motor?

Thanks for the help.

 

[whitesqual]

I would go with the d1 now and give her a bunch of boost! Then when your buddy with the gt500 gets tired of you beating him (or just keeping up with him) and buys a bigger blower and has 700 horse, Start building a dart based stroker so you can beat him (or just keep up)! But if you are just trying to stay under the price of a gt500 you could probably just do all of the above right off the bat!

 

[302GTS]

Agreed with ^^^. Your motor's only got 60k, and you said the drivetrain's solid. I've seen guys on youtube running 9's on the stock block. Won't last long, but it can be done. I'd say Procharge it, run like 8-10 psi, do h/c/i if you havn't already, and sit at like 400whp or so (not sure of the gains from centris). Then start saving for a new block to replace yours if it blows down the road!

 

[Black Stampede]

Sounds like you are looking to lay out some serious money. Make sure you plan for your long term goals right now rather than after you dump a boatload of money into the car. For example I wouldnt advise building a setup around your stock block with the money you seem to be looking to spend. Not to mention a stock block setup is gonna be a joke as soon as he starts really modding that gt500.

 

[94-302-vert]

Figure that your ultimate goal is. I bet that you are not going to be happy with the 500ish rwhp you can reliably get out of a stock block...

 

[Dropped95]

All good suggestions, my intial thought was motor and if i ended up needing more at sometime then i can add the blower when needed. Theres just something about 450 NA that appeals to me not to mention reliable 450. I certainly don't want to say moneys no object but its been a good many years since i've spent any dough on this thing so i do have a hunk to spend. I just want the best solution for max HP and long term reliability. With the blower i'm still going to want to add a Trick Flow Track Heat, 42lb squirters etc etc etc so could i build a NA motor that would reach my goals for the same cost as a blower with fuel upgrades? Things to ponder, thanks for the feedback!

 

[whitesqual]

well, if you put a dart or boss block based stroker motor in and want to hit 450 n/a, and keep the compression low enough to put a blower on it you are gona probably want to go with a 408 or bigger. But you don't want to build a max hp n/a motor for use with a blower. I would build a low comp. 4XX built for boost, and drive it like that till your friend catches up, then replace your drivetrain, suspension, fuel system and throw the boost to her and watch your buddy try to catch up.

 

[Dropped95]

Well i got the suspension done and some small upgrades to the drivetrain so i think i will get a motor from DSS spec'd for boost and get it in over the winter and post my results in spring when i feed him his 60G car.