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srtthis

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any one converted to it yet?

the idea is crossing my mind since its back in the garage and we have a station within an hour of the house that i can get it.


110oct and under 2.50 a gallon

granted i need a bigger fuel system (30-35%) then id need on E10 or E0 . but since im redoing it anyway right now it wouldnt cost THAT much more then doing it to what i need now. most of it would be in sumping my tank and the braided lines and fuel rails.
 
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If I had it local I'd switch without thinking twice. The closest station to me is about 45 min and where I drive the car daily, no go.

All my buddies with "fast" cars run it though.
 

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92GreenGT said:
If I had it local I'd switch without thinking twice. The closest station to me is about 45 min and where I drive the car daily, no go.

All my buddies with "fast" cars run it though.
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yea ive seen a lot of lighting guys run it latley. and since i can get 2 35gallon fuel drums i can keep it at my house and not have to worry about finding it when i want to take the car out.
 

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92GreenGT said:
If I had it local I'd switch without thinking twice. The closest station to me is about 45 min and where I drive the car daily, no go.

All my buddies with "fast" cars run it though.
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Do they have any problem with consistencies with the pump e-85?
 

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Do they have any problem with consistencies with the pump e-85?
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Daves friend Luke has a 1000HP+ turbo car on E85, and in conversations with him he has had great success and really likes it, although he has a AEM system, 160# inj and huge fuel lines.....

I hear a lot of guys will constantly keep the fuel mixed to keep some consistency from batch to batch. I've got a station 3 miles from my shop
 

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Rick 91GT said:
Daves friend Luke has a 1000HP+ turbo car on E85, and in conversations with him he has had great success and really likes it, although he has a AEM system, 160# inj and huge fuel lines.....

I hear a lot of guys will constantly keep the fuel mixed to keep some consistency from batch to batch. I've got a station 3 miles from my shop
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toms with the arbys on 30?
 

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i know it really ****s up the meters that it gets pumped through, can only imagine it does the same to your car
 

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Shaolin Crane said:
i know it really ****s up the meters that it gets pumped through, can only imagine it does the same to your car
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It is corrosive, but so is leaded fuel and e85's alot cheaper
 

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90lxcoupe said:
It is corrosive, but so is leaded fuel and e85's alot cheaper
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Its not corrosive like leaded fuel is. When we tear apart the meters with E85 they are trashed, not even rebuild able. It eats the pads, and bonds the internal pistons to the cylinder walls. And pits it like no other fuel.
 

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Its not corrosive like leaded fuel is. When we tear apart the meters with E85 they are trashed, not even rebuild able. It eats the pads, and bonds the internal pistons to the cylinder walls. And pits it like no other fuel.
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it pits internal engine parts just like c16 or c20 will, i remember seading some article where they showed prolonged us with both leaded fuel and e85, and the parts looked the same.
 

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Hmmmm, all i know the meters we get back from C12 and C16 dont look as bad as the E85 meters, and the E85 meters dont last as long either. We use that crap in our test stand and it just ****s up everything it touches.
 

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Unless it was a track only or dyno queen. I would stick with pump gas.
 

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Hmmmm, all i know the meters we get back from C12 and C16 dont look as bad as the E85 meters, and the E85 meters dont last as long either. We use that crap in our test stand and it just ****s up everything it touches.
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what kind of meters? A friend of myne with a supra runs C16 and that stuff litterally eats away at his downpipe, and he has to replace the wideband all the time cause the fuel fouls them out.
 

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what kind of meters? A friend of myne with a supra runs C16 and that stuff litterally eats away at his downpipe, and he has to replace the wideband all the time cause the fuel fouls them out.
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Doesnt matter the brand, LC, Gilbarco, Smith, Wayne, Bennet, Tokheim, they all end up the same way. The thing i noticed about C16 is whatever it touches turns brittle and it cracks and pits. E85 turns whatever it touches into goo. The hoses we use are rated for nasty **** we run alcohol, MEK, and other acids. And since we started using E85 and BIO Diesel in our test stands (thanks kommiefornia) it turns the hoses to gel too, rubber comes right off the internal spring.
 

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Shaolin Crane said:
Doesnt matter the brand, LC, Gilbarco, Smith, Wayne, Bennet, Tokheim, they all end up the same way. The thing i noticed about C16 is whatever it touches turns brittle and it cracks and pits. E85 turns whatever it touches into goo. The hoses we use are rated for nasty **** we run alcohol, MEK, and other acids. And since we started using E85 and BIO Diesel in our test stands (thanks kommiefornia) it turns the hoses to gel too, rubber comes right off the internal spring.
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C23 does the same thing as C16... its caused by not having any additives in it im told.
 

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all race fuels do, they just dont seem to do it as fast as E85 does
 

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wonder if running something like the scented additives would help with this
 

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I want my gas to smell like pina colada, then when I step out of my car I reek of tiki bar instead of pump gas.
 

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stykthyn said:
I want my gas to smell like pina colada, then when I step out of my car I reek of tiki bar instead of pump gas.
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srtthis said:
toms with the arbys on 30?
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Yup...


There is a lot of good info in this thread Dave as Luke seen any long term effects yet on his car? This make me think about my buddies alcohol sprint car that gets a flush with pump gas every race...
 
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