Ever considered converting to Carb?
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reject5.0 said:The thought has crossed my mind several times actually. When I find a DD, I will experiment with my car maybe. Ive though about putting in one of these:
I got tired of trying to reprogram stock computer ever time I made a mod. So 1 pair of wire cutters, a hammer and about 30 days I was converted to Carb. I'll never look back unless I decide to run a turbo or something.
Black95GTS
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GTS347 said:
I just got owned in a carb vs. efi debate, with carbs being faster at WOT. But I still prefer EFI, I kinda like that computer tuning aspect. Hence the TwEECer.
O/T, but I just noticed your sig. I bet you take a TON of time off your ET if you switched to a 4.10 rear end! The 2.73s are killing you! I'm actually mad right now!
Adam
Not in my 95!
No Way Jose!
I absolutely love the ability to tune with my finger tips and be able to see all the data from my various sensors.
I could go on and on why I would not do it but ...
it really has to do with my application or my desires, if you will, with this car.
I really do see where you are coming from with the Question though.
Carbs are so easy to tune.
Old School can be so Cool!
I'll go back to em some day but not with my 95.
Grady
No Way Jose!
I absolutely love the ability to tune with my finger tips and be able to see all the data from my various sensors.
I could go on and on why I would not do it but ...
it really has to do with my application or my desires, if you will, with this car.
I really do see where you are coming from with the Question though.
Carbs are so easy to tune.
Old School can be so Cool!
I'll go back to em some day but not with my 95.
Grady
mo_dingo
20+ Year Stangneter 
GTS347 said:
When I added new h/c/i, I didn't change anything. Stock MAF/injectors/fuel rails/computer/etc.
Why would you have to change your comp for every mod? That doesn't make sense. The only mods you have to change your tune would be for adding/decreasing boost.
Even if you add new heads, for instance, the MAF will still sense the extra air flow and compensate in OL, as will the O2's in CL.
Scott
reject5.0 said:
I agree about the simplicity of old school tuning!
I've had lots of experience with it in the past and
it is still near and dear to me for sure
however
If you gather up all its good points and get the very best of everything it has to offer.
A great tune on a very hot dry day is not a great tune on a cool damp day.
With the technology of today ...................................
weather and other stuff is ..................... not a problem
gas milage is ....................................... not a problem
stone cold starts are ............................ not a problem
drivability issues are ............................. not a problem
etc, etc, etc
Not really fair to compare them as
they are not an apples to apples kinda thing IMHO
Cool thread for sure! Grady
xkuntrycowboyx
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Yes! ...and actually i've been looking for an article i read bout a year ago, on a EFI switch to carb, on like a 2001 Vette or Camaro, and said it added tons of potential for horse, and the actual swap to custom intake and carb added a ton more horse than you'd think... i don't know how and maybei worded that a lil off, but it did! i was really surprised. ...if i find the article i'll refer ya'll to it.
ne ways, just to for the ease i think they'd be a better option, so i just bought a 1980 stepside. 351W w. 750 edelbrock 4bbl, performer intake... and i love it. it needs work, but im lookin foward to it.
...soo, EFI vs. Carb... i think you'll like one over the other, depending on one thing... the amount of knowledge you have about each subject. If you know exactly wat ur doing and how to tune it up right, u'll prolly like the one u know the most about.
my vote... Carb!
ne ways, just to for the ease i think they'd be a better option, so i just bought a 1980 stepside. 351W w. 750 edelbrock 4bbl, performer intake... and i love it. it needs work, but im lookin foward to it.
...soo, EFI vs. Carb... i think you'll like one over the other, depending on one thing... the amount of knowledge you have about each subject. If you know exactly wat ur doing and how to tune it up right, u'll prolly like the one u know the most about.
my vote... Carb!
It just seems to me when somebody does some engine work or whatever on their car and i ask them how it runs, they always answer "oh, i need a tune" or "oh, the such and such sensor is bad" or whatever. To many problems to overcome IMO
This is a good thread. There is a lot to consider. The point made above about doing whatever you are used to the most is very good advice.
This is a good thread. There is a lot to consider. The point made above about doing whatever you are used to the most is very good advice.
Blackened302
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reject5.0 said:
my painter converted his fuel injected fox to holly double pumper. he hasn't gotten the engine together yet, but it will be very soon. he's expecting a lot better #'s with this set-up. personally i wouldn't do it w/ my car, but having something like
sticking out of your hood = teh 
reject5.0 said:
that is an excuse for losing,
you can mak adjustments the old school way if you knwo what you are doing.
I put my heads and new cam in, i set the timing. I adjusted the idle screw on the TB so it would idle with the new cam. I went to the dyno. I made a pull, i was lean, I added 2 psi of fuel,made a pull, was still lean. I pulled 2 degrees of timing with a twist of the distributor. I picked up 12 hp and 9 foot pounds of torque, with more room for improvement but ran out of pulls. I didnt need a computer or chip
I had a recent idle issue where it would randomly hang at 1800, thought i might finally need a tune or tweecer. No a wire to my tps had fried, fixed it in 2 minutes
for a dialy driver, its the way to go
especially when with teh switch of a button, you can switch to a nitrous tune and switch back for all motor. yes you can do that with a carbed car but you then get into the expensive ignition electronics you are trying to bypass with the carb.^you have some very good points there. For a DD, injection is def. the way to go. Also the points you made about the ability to still tune our cars the old fashioned way is a good point. Thats why I got a 5.0 instead of a 4.6 Its nice to have a distributer look back at you when you pop the hood.
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