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I have a use set of explorer 19lb injectors. Rebuild kit only has two orings, plastic cap (for the lower side) and filter. Where can I buy the small oring that goes on the top of the injector? Is it not needed? See picture which shows the red circle - one injector doesn't have the small black oring and the other does. Thanks for any thoughts.
 

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I'd try here. https://fuelinjectorconnection.com/...ctor-kits-1?Year/1990/Make/Ford/Model/Mustang

If you're not sure what you need send them that picture and they'll hook you up. I don't know what year explorer you have. If you click on the "Change vehicle" tab from that link you might see what you need.
 

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https://www.amazon.com/HiSport-Injector-Universal-Replaces-0280150962/dp/B08J7D6CCD?sr=8-1
 

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diesel farmer said:
I have a use set of explorer 19lb injectors. Rebuild kit only has two orings, plastic cap (for the lower side) and filter. Where can I buy the small oring that goes on the top of the injector? Is it not needed? See picture which shows the red circle - one injector doesn't have the small black oring and the other does. Thanks for any thoughts.
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I don't know if you need them as they would be inside the fuel rail and I am not sure what they would seal against. Maybe the explorer fuel rail is different than the Mustang.

I will have to check some of the explorer injectors I have in the garage.
 

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The explorer o-rings are the same. These are somewhat standard.

If we could determine what -dash number these o-rings are you could likely buy a bag of Viton o-rings for $5 and have a hundred or so.

I’ll need to check my Parker o-ring book on chemical compatibility and see if I can find a size.
 
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I don't know if you need them as they would be inside the fuel rail and I am not sure what they would seal against. Maybe the explorer fuel rail is different than the Mustang.

I will have to check some of the explorer injectors I have in the garage.
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See pic. Mustang fuel rail on left/top; Explorer rail on right/bottom. Explorer rail is deeper for sure. I am going to use the Mustang fuel rail.

Also have another set of 19lb injectors (that came out of an Explorer) with Ford Part # XS2E-A5B that have the same small o-ring at the top of the injector.
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
The explorer o-rings are the same. These are somewhat standard.

If we could determine what -dash number these o-rings are you could likely buy a bag of Viton o-rings for $5 and have a hundred or so.

I’ll need to check my Parker o-ring book on chemical compatibility and see if I can find a size.
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Thanks much - look forward to what you find!
 

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The o-ring pushes against the top of the bell when you fasten the rail down.
 
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The o-ring pushes against the top of the bell when you fasten the rail down.
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Yes, I think you are correct. The Amazon link you sent does not have the top small o-ring unless I am missing something. Thanks.
 

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Yes, I think you are correct. The Amazon link you sent does not have the top small o-ring unless I am missing something. Thanks.
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The first image indicates that they're both 14mm and the same size as the one on the bottom.

I can't account for the size variation on the one you're looking at however, if you have an o-ring that is equal in size or smaller than the shoulder at the top of the injector and fits inside of the bell, then it should work perfectly.
 
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The first image indicates that they're both 14mm and the same size as the one on the bottom.

I can't account for the size variation on the one you're looking at however, if you have an o-ring that is equal in size or smaller than the shoulder at the top of the injector and fits inside of the bell, then it should work perfectly.
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Are you thinking that the 0-203 o-ring (from your pic) should seal into the fuel rail and therefore I don’t need the smaller o-ring located above the 0-203 o-ring?
 
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diesel farmer said:
Are you thinking that the 0-203 o-ring (from your pic) should seal into the fuel rail and therefore I don’t need the smaller o-ring located above the 0-203 o-ring?
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Test it of course, but yeah... If that O-ring stays on the shoulder when pressed into the bell then it should seal.
 
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Test it of course, but yeah... If that O-ring stays on the shoulder when pressed into the bell then it should seal.
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I will install the injectors and rail into the manifold, apply fuel pressure from the tank/pump and report if I see any leaks - hopefully that will tell if they are sealing properly.
 

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Nitrile (Buna-N) and Viton show compatibility with Gasoline.

Does appear to be a -203 o-ring. Only unknown is hardness. 70 and 90 seem to be common but I don't have anything to measure this particular O-ring but given the use i'd probably lean 90

Seems like you can get a bag of 100 for $5 plus shipping.

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Not sure which one I can recommend here without testing myself. Given that these are fuel systems, the risk is high. But given that, I can't help but think most of these injector rebuild kits are probably using the cheapest O-rings possible.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
Nitrile (Buna-N) and Viton show compatibility with Gasoline.

Does appear to be a -203 o-ring. Only unknown is hardness. 70 and 90 seem to be common but I don't have anything to measure this particular O-ring but given the use i'd probably lean 90

Seems like you can get a bag of 100 for $5 plus shipping.

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Not sure which one I can recommend here without testing myself. Given that these are fuel systems, the risk is high. But given that, I can't help but think most of these injector rebuild kits are probably using the cheapest O-rings possible.
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See pics with the measurements. Does this help?
 

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I would not use the Buna-N due to the additives and ethanol that is blended into the gasoline. I am in the refined petroleum industry and we do not use Buna-N at all anymore and have moved to Viton derivatives. I am having to replace about $1500 worth of fuel lines and fittings on my T-Brid due to it being the older stainless steel braided rubber lines. Moving that car over to hoses with a teflon liner.
 
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Update - installed the regular o-ring kit on the explorer injectors without the small o-ring at the very top where the injector enters the fuel rail. Put power to the fuel pump and had ~42 psi at the fuel rail (with adjustment to the regulator) and don't see any sign of gas leaks at the fuel rail. I guess this confirms that I don't need the small o-ring installed on the injectors.

However, should the fuel pressure drop off quickly after the power to the fuel pump is shut off? I am running a CRT-P74028 fuel pump from Summit mounted outside of the tank. The fuel pressure gauge is mounted on the schrader value by the regulator and the pressure bleeds off to roughly 5 psi within seconds of shutting off the pump. The vacuum line to the regulator is not hooked up. Do I have some bad injectors maybe? Thanks.
 

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Could be a leak somewhere or could be the regulator allowing fuel to return below the preset pressure.

What happens when you turn the ignition switch to the [run] position without going to start? Does it build full pressure?
 
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Could be a leak somewhere or could be the regulator allowing fuel to return below the preset pressure.

What happens when you turn the ignition switch to the [run] position without going to start? Does it build full pressure?
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I will have to report back on that once I get the wiring fully installed. I just ran power directly to the pump with a battery to see if there was a leak at the fuel rail. Should have the ignition operational in a week or two.
 

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Something else you can try is to carefully pinch off the return line and see if you get the same drop to 5 psi when the power is cut.

Be careful doing this by applying power directly tho...
 
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