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90stang

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I'm looking more towards the p's just because they'll most likely be cheaper and i want to try and do a little clean up and mild port work. I'm not very concered about the sprak plug problem, i can work around it. Would this get me in the 12's? Looking to get maybe a high or even a mid 12 if possible, then add a 100 shot. Would the p's or gt-40's have any benefits between the two considering the n2o?

will the explorer tb bolt up without complications? I'm under the impression it's a 65mm?

What could be expected from these? stock cam. Longtubes, 65 tb, maf, what few things are in my sig..
 

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Can't tell you anything about your times except there are many stock head/stock cammed Stangs out there with not much more done than long tubes, big gears and traction (slicks, rear suspension work) that run 12's.

The P's, GT40 irons and GT40-Y303's (AL) all flow about the same. People make good power with them all the time and they're quite streetable. The Explorer intake shares the same lower with the Cobra and the GT40 - they all flow almost identically. It should work well with the P's. The throttle body is 65mm - but it will take work to adapt it to the Stang - the throttle linkage and the tps will need to be modified to work. It can be done - I'd just buy a 65mm from Ford Racing and get the new tps and IAB solenoid that come with them. The older Explorer intakes have internal egr capability. The newer ones (starting sometime in 97) do not. So if you need to be emissions legal you'll need an earlier intake. None of them have the ACT sensor in the number 5 runner - so you'll either have to drill and tap for that sensor, or lengthen your wiring harness and install it in the intake piping somewhere upstream of the throttle body. The Explorer's had it installed in the air intake box.

Here's a blurb from another post that describes the history of the GT40 intakes:
There are several GT40/Cobra/Explorer style lower intakes. All of these will use the same upper to lower port spacing and bolt pattern and as such; the same gasket.
The 91-93 GT40 as sold by Ford Motorsports had a unique lower intake and possibly a different casting number.
When Ford came out with the 93 Cobra, they retooled the GT40 lower intake molds for the higher volume of mass production.
They are visually and functionally the same. Only difference is in casting techniques used to streamline to the production.
All Motorsport GT40 intakes and 93 Cobra intakes have the holes drilled and tapped for the air charge temperature sensor (ACT) and the throttle body coolant lines. The 93 Cobra had pipe plugs installed in the holes for the throttle body coolant lines since they did not come with the throttle body coolant lines.
Starting with the 1994 Cobras, the holes for the ACT and throttle body lines were no longer drilled, even though the casting bosses where the holes should be were still there. This same lower intake was also used on the 1995 Cobras and the 1996 to very early 1997 Explorers.
Ford again retooled the lower intake for the 1997-2000 Explorers. It is still the same GT40 style intake and the ports are still the same, BUT they do not have an EGR port AND the casting bosses for the ACT and the throttle body lines were eliminated from the casting. If you dont mind losing the EGR function, you could use this lower with no problems other than either trying to drill the ACT hole OR completely relocating the ACT to the inlet tract as Ford had done starting with the 1994 Mustangs.
The Explorer intake is still a very inexpensive upgrade for a stock intake and offers a great bang for the buck. Flow of the upper is probably very similar to a Cobra and not far behind a GT40.
Worst case scenario is to buy and Explorer intake and use it as is until you locate a GT40 upper (if that is what floats your boat).
But the difference in power in minimal.It would have to come down to aestethics.
 
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So the 97-up explorer intake will still have the boss in it for the ACT sensor, that i can drill and tap, right?


If anyone has some more info about time's and such with the gt-40p's, please post it up.
 
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I've been doing as much reading as I can on the GT40P's over the last few months. I saved this link from a thread over at Corral that had some good info:

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=159577

There are some pretty good times posted and in sigs with P heads in that thread.
 

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90 Stang - no; re-read the addendum; they deleted the bosses. I simply relocated mine to the intake piping upstream of the throttle body - lengthening the wiring harness and locating the sensor there seemed easier to me than drilling and tapping the intake.
 
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stock89lx, thanks for the link

michael, sorry, i misread it the first time.
 

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I have a 1997 Explorer intake set aside at my mechanic's junk yard, and it HAS the internal EGR system. Looks like they changed over sometime that year, but not before a few 97s got out. Also, I believe that all the heads that came on Explorers were GT40Ps, which is why I am not grabbing them from the explorer my intake is coming from.
 

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The changeover in the manifolds (egr) did occur in 97; that also corresponds with when they changed over to the P heads (which have no internal egr provisions). Prior to the changeover in 97, the Explorer's came with GT40 heads, not P's.
 

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Don't forget - if you go with P heads, spark plug access is a challenge with non-P headers.
 

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So, If the EGR is on the intake, is there a chance that those heads might be regular GT40s and not Ps? *crosses fingers*
 
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It would mean that they are most likely gt-40s because it would only make sense that both the intake and heads have egr provisions
 
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another thing, what about bbk longtubes and "p" heads? anyone?
 

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ok im confused, im going through a head gasket repair right now, what heads do the explorers have on them? and are they better than stock stangs E7's?
 
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gt40's up till 96
gt40p's 97+

and they would both be better from my findings...
 

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Any Explorer 5.0L engine is basically a Cobra engine without the 1.7 rockers and with a sport utility vehicle cam. There it is.
 

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GT40s have three vertical bars on the front of the head and GT40P heads have four bars.
 

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I am gonna have to go get a better look. I can get the heads for 300.00 for the pair. The truck had a bad fire, but the intakes were more or less untouched. Would the heads be ok, or could a fire ruin them? Most of the rubber in the engine bay was melted and burned, but all of the wires on the fire wall surivived. The main damage was in the front driver's quarter where there was a collision. If these are regular GT40 heads, I will be all over them. To see those bars, do you have to pull any covers or are they plainly visible?
 

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Just called my mechanic, he said that they are listed as P heads in his computer at the junk yard. That blows.
 

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Always put eyes on them - 97 was the transition year. The bars are visible on the very front face of the head, like just behind the alternator or power steering pump.
 

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Yeah, I'll take a look next time I am up there. Thanks for the info.
 
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