StangDreamin'
Founding Member
Nah, man, this is the new "kinder, gentler" me.![]()
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HA!! you must not hang around the classic thread often!!
I'll hold dreamin back though so he doesn't![]()
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Actually, this is really the old, lazy me! I figure anybody that AJ doesn't take down will have to deal with Trish; and they'll be wishing they'd pi$$ed-off AJ after she's done with them. (If they're still capable of concious thought)

4000 yards????btw dreamin, last time i heard you were good out to 4000 yrds with that .308 ??![]()
What have you been growin' out back of the barn, there, buddy??? Any .308 round that would be safe in a Norinco M14-clone ain't gonna make it 4000 yards! I've heard of guys "nuclear loading" lightweight spitzer point .30-06 rounds for those distances, but they're using Remington 700 receivers - or better yet, pre-64 Winchester 70's; or some extremely rare clean German or late-1930's BRNO (Czech, and the best IMHO) '98 Mauser actions- with big, fat, heavy barrels!
Yeahyeahyeah; I know, "the .308 was the last and only MIL round to be (marginally) better than the '06 in an '03 Springfield to deliver decisive and accurate fire". But not in a Chinese semiauto based on the Springfield select-fire original! IF I could make a .308 get out 4000 yards without blowing myself up; it would be about 1/2" AGL, traveling only vaguely in the direction of POA at about 3-3/4 INCHES per second.
If I was serious about slapping somebody down at 2-1/4 miles (as if I could even see half that far); I'd be buying a couple pounds of Hodgdon powder and loading up exactly 16 rounds of .50 BMG to feed a 20-odd pound Barret.





