Ford, I dont get it

LIZARDKING · Dec 23, 2005

Drove past the Ford lot today, the only one in town.

They have 5 V6 verts sitting on the lot, and they have been sitting there 2+ months. Its winter you know.

On the showroom floor I see a white GT ..... vert.

WTH? Doesnt Ford know verts sell better in the spring/summer months?

Ive been here since June and the dealer has only received 3 GTs, 2 verts, 1 coupe.

I just dont get it.

shooterm1 · Dec 23, 2005

Ford over built the Verts ,,,, especially the V6's.

Someone should be able to make some good deals soon.

merlinsteele · Dec 23, 2005

I don't think the 'verts are the only thing that's sitting around. As I mentioned before here, I believe, I went down to the local dealership, and they offered me a car with the sticker at $19,8 for $18,8, and it was THEIR offer! Of course it was an almost stripped down V6. But then the salesman said, hey, let's try to get you a GT with leather and power seats (which are about the only options I care about) for $25 grande! I soooo wanted to do that. The GT's go pretty fast, but they have a row of V6's that have sat there for a long time.

mandopickr · Dec 23, 2005

It's simple. Dealers with limited allotment of GTs would rather sell a $31,000 convertible than a $26,000 coupe. Same goes for the Mach 1000 stereo. I see GTs on the lots, but they are fully loaded, and I don't want the Mach 1000 because of the limited trunk space.

mark95-0051 · Dec 23, 2005

Three out of every five FORD MUSTANGS are sold in CALIFORNIA!!!!

shooterm1 · Dec 23, 2005

mandopickr said:
It's simple. Dealers with limited allotment of GTs would rather sell a $31,000 convertible than a $26,000 coupe. Same goes for the Mach 1000 stereo.

This could also explain the reason that there are so few GT 5 spd's available.

Does anyone know the process that Dealers follow in ordering cars for stocking their lots?

I know that high allocation Dealers have more leeway than the others, but just how are these cars ordered?

Dyoct · Dec 23, 2005

Cars are ordered to whatever specifications the dealerbody feels that will sell the best. Depending on their monthly allocation will depend on how quickly their orders get built. Yes, many Mustangs are sold in California, but the rest of the country gets a share of sales as well.

shooterm1 · Dec 24, 2005

Dyoct said:
Cars are ordered to whatever specifications the dealerbody feels that will sell the best. Depending on their monthly allocation will depend on how quickly their orders get built.

So am I right, these dealer orders are perhaps one big reason behind the shocking lack 5spds available in the GT and Convertibles out there?

Sanctus · Dec 25, 2005

i do believe that ford has quite possibly the worst manufacturing research team in the entire history of the auto industry. they have an amazing car for the price(the gt) which in my town at least is on a 9+month waiting list and they cant build them for each dealer fast enough. all i have to say is the person/team who came up with the percentages of what mustangs to build were so far off its unbelievable. the idea that the gt was named best muscle car of the year is very indicative of what the cars potential and stock qualities hold. but the FoMoCo, in my opinion, has completly dropped the ball on this one. They should have the ability to adapt to what the consumer wants, and in this case the demand unnessisarily outnumbers the demand. hey im 16 years old and i know what ford is doing wrong... dont you think that ford should too? i look at all these people wiating to buy their cars and by the time ford actually builds them they will have already baught a gm or a merc or porsche or whatever. in the automotive world nobody plans so far in advance. Hell i knew a friend who ordered a m3 and the waiting time on that was outrageous at 6mo. and it came in less than that. i guess thats what you get from a company thats making a 26K$ sports car. i mean they have the best product at this price, and they dont have any to sell.... its pathetic...
just my opinion

merlinsteele · Dec 25, 2005

I don't understand car companies, either. For instance, with GM I understand if they have a Camaro coming they want to keep it under wraps. But if it's going to be hot, wouldn't they want to push it out there in case someone was crazy enough to save up and/or wait for it? Instead they seem to be hiding it like some secret from the CIA or FBI.

Mossberg · Dec 25, 2005

GM is hiding from the political red tape they would have with Canada if they would officially announce a new Camaro. I'm sure they will find some way to work that out though.

merlinsteele · Dec 25, 2005

Mossberg said:
GM is hiding from the political red tape they would have with Canada if they would officially announce a new Camaro. I'm sure they will find some way to work that out though.

Maybe, but don't all car companies do the same thing before announcing a new car or announcing it at an Auto Show? (Like the Mustang and Challenger) Perhaps I've partly answered my own question; they want to announce it themselves?

Oh, btw I had a funny thought on when the Camaro comes out; if it's gay looking, they can use that one song as a theme song; "I'm com'in out!"

shooterm1 · Dec 25, 2005

Sanctus said:
i do believe that the FoMoCo, has completly dropped the ball on this one. They should have the ability to adapt to what the consumer wants, and in this case the demand unnessisarily outnumbers the demand. hey im 16 years old and i know what ford is doing wrong... dont you think that ford should too? i look at all these people wiating to buy their cars and by the time ford actually builds them they will have already baught a gm or a merc or porsche or whatever. in the automotive world nobody plans so far in advance. Hell i knew a friend who ordered a m3 and the waiting time on that was outrageous at 6mo. and it came in less than that. i guess thats what you get from a company thats making a 26K$ sports car. i mean they have the best product at this price, and they dont have any to sell.... its pathetic...

As you can see from this article >> http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/110407.html the Flatrock plant where the Mustang is assembled doesn't belong to Ford 100% percent of the time. They have to share it ....

So what was perceived as an innovation and a big asset is in reality a liability to getting the new Mustang built to order realtime.

Fox44ever · Dec 25, 2005

Why not buy a convertible?

Rear quyarter windows roll down... they look better... it's like owning two cars instead of one.

Sanctus · Dec 25, 2005

Fox44ever said:
Why not buy a convertible?

Rear quyarter windows roll down... they look better... it's like owning two cars instead of one.

ughhh 4 g's

351CJ · Dec 26, 2005

Fox44ever said:
Why not buy a convertible?

Because verts are:
heavier
noisier
slower
don't handle as well
don't look as good
colder in the winter
easier for a thief or vandal to break into
more expensive when you buy one
sooner or later leak water
and even more expensive when you have to replace your cheapo worn out plastic roof

Ford makes more profit on the verts. They built too many verts trying to jack up their profits.

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