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Swapping a 351c into an 85 4 eye

Now im no jabroni with tons of cash, car is garbage and the motor isn't. The hottest in town

I'm not going for maximum power
Not maximum cool factor

Simply putting big motor into small hole

Couple of questions
I'm using the t5 still what do I need to get to match we up to the 351c I've read mixed things
Anyone have a oil pan for the cheap or recommend one. I'm not lowering the k member or anything extra like that.

Also the car is getting turned into a rally car so aif anyone knows what kinda springs/struts I can throw under her to raise her up thatd be cool

Thanks gents
-dumbguy
 
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Olivethefet

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Why a Cleveland? If your going to rally the car isn't that a lot of extra weight that will just pull the nose of the car around?
 
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Olivethefet said:
Why a Cleveland? If your going to rally the car isn't that a lot of extra weight that will just pull the nose of the car around?
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Free running motor>small block that's currently eating it's bearings

Don't worry I'll be shoving a stupid amount of weight into the back of the car
 
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This sounds interesting. Got any pics of the car/project so far?
 
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DudeStang said:
This sounds interesting. Got any pics of the car/project so far?
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Also neglected to mention since we sold Our shop most cars went to the home garage so I'm doing this swap in a storage unit
 

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Dumbguydoindumbstuff said:
Also neglected to mention since we sold Our shop most cars went to the home garage so I'm doing this swap in a storage unit
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Damn, that's pretty hardcore. Perhaps this is a script for a new reality show...
 

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the C has a different bolt pattern for the bell. I don't know that there is a bell that would work. You'd probably have to use one of the SROD bells and run a tremec.
 

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Dumbguydoindumbstuff said:
Also neglected to mention since we sold Our shop most cars went to the home garage so I'm doing this swap in a storage unit
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Surprised they let you work in the unit. I know when I kept my car in one a few years back they were big on making sure people weren't working on cars that were stored in there. I did it anyway...but small things
 
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hoopty5.0 said:
the C has a different bolt pattern for the bell. I don't know that there is a bell that would work. You'd probably have to use one of the SROD bells and run a tremec.
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Oh really? I thought the t5 was compatible
 

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If it's an actual 351C I'm pretty sure the 5.0 bell will physically fit - I don't know anything about what flywheels would work or anything for sure, but the Clevelands had the same bell bolt pattern as the Windsors. The 351M and 400M, however, are a different story.....
 
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It's a legitimate 351c ...
 

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You are going to have to google hard. A 351C has been put in a Foxbody several times, but it's a rare swap. People don't have answers right off the top of their head. I just googled "351C in foxbody" and the top 5 listings were build questions or build threads.

urt
 

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It is another one of those “ that sht don make no sense” swaps when the other criteria indicates “ as cheaply as possible”.

A Cleveland has NEVER been a cheap engine to consider,..even when they are free. Different everything, poor flowing low RPM heads,.( intake, cam, balancer, distributor, timing chain,) .requiring stupid swap headers that are like 2” primaries and assembled with flat inline collectors..and an equally obscure double sump oil pan.

it’s just too stupid to consider.....May as well put a JDM 2jz in it and custom build a pan and transmission adapter.
 
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Another Fox bites the dust...
 

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I like this guy. Self-aware username, bat crazy project, no attitude problem...

Any way I can help, lemme know.
 

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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Only half as crazy as a awd swapped fox.
 
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I am just here for teh picturz
 

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General karthief said:
Only half as crazy as a awd swapped fox.
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Point me in the direction of that thread please, lol
 

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DudeStang said:
Point me in the direction of that thread please, lol
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1980 Coupe - Turbo AWD v8 Swap

Some of yall might have seen hoopty5.0 share an album I posted on reddit. I was encouraged to post a build thread here. I'm going to be a little brief on some details and try and hit the high points. Here we go! This was my first car. I got it with a 4 speed 2.3. I drove this for a couple years...
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