Then buy a Honda and make it fast then.
HOW DO YOU GET +20 MPG?!?!?!!111my cars almost completely stock, besides exhuast, and is driven relatively slow all the time because i get about 15 MPG
Exactly. HP and MPG do not mix together.that'd cost about $7500 in mods
Exactly. HP and MPG do not mix together.
Ok what I am getting at is don't buy a v8 sports car and mod it to hell and then expect to get great gas Mileage. If MPG is an issue, get a honda. That reasoning is the same as buying a Honda and then saying why isn't it fast?
What is an LS1? Not all of them doFunny thing that a lightly modded LS1 will spank you all day long and then get 28-30mpg on the highway drive home.
Most of us still use our mustangs as daily drivers. For that reason, milage is still important and something to consider when you are modifying. They are modified to be more fun as daily drivers and perform better at the track. Very few of our mustangs are dedicated racecars where you can completely ignore milage.
I think reasonable milage can be expected. Obviously, it is more important to some than others. You may enjoy wasting your money on gas if you want.
You can make loads of power without getting poor gas milage. Nearly any turbo setup can IMPROVE your gas milage. Just look at factory fuel economy ratings between a turbo model and the base model of the SAME car and engine (like the 300Z)
The big mods that will hurt milage are a blower (extra drag), a cam (hurts efficiency in cruise rpms), and gears. Most other mods focus on making the engine more efficient, even in the cruise rpms and will improve milage.
Your statements seems pretty ignorant to me!
How is my statement ignorant? I think ignorance is defined when you take a v8 and cam it and add mods to it and then talk about how much mpg you can get.
Not to be an @ss, but, Cams+mods= no need to worry about mpg. If mpg is an issue, your best bet is to leave it stock.
Why do people mod a v8 sports car and worry about how much miles per gallon they will get?
Exactly. HP and MPG do not mix together.
Ok what I am getting at is don't buy a v8 sports car and mod it to hell and then expect to get great gas Mileage. If MPG is an issue, get a honda. That reasoning is the same as buying a Honda and then saying why isn't it fast?
No my quotes imply that if you mod a vehicle, you shouldn't be worrying about how much gas mileage you can get.All of your quotes imply that any mods in general will hurt your milage and that you can't have power and make good milage too. That is ignorant.
That may be correct, but that is not my point. My point deals with people wanting mpg and at the same time modding a v8 motor.It really can't be that difficult to get at least 18-20 mpg, even with mild cams and gears. I think most people who can't, are either driving the piss out of their car, making only short trips or the engine is way our of tune.
Great, congrats.Hell, my 4cyl turbo was getting 17mpg while beating the piss out of it, and that's without an overdrive gear (3800-4000 on the highway), no O2 sensors, and an automatic... and I still ran quick as a well modded 4.6 down the quarter. Heaven forbid I put an overdrive transmission and an O2 sensor in and got 25+mpg like it should.
No my quotes imply that if you mod a vehicle, you shouldn't be worrying about how much gas mileage you can get.
My point deals with people wanting mpg and at the same time modding a v8 motor.
Ok and?Why not? The cars still get driven on the street, most of them daily.
I never said you couldn't. I commented on adding mods such as cams and of the like to the engine and you shouldn't be worrying about MPG. It pretty much falls into the catagory of buying a honda just so you can make it fast.As already said, you can still get good milage with mods. Possibly even better milage.What's wrong with doing a few mods and expecting your milage to stay reasonable?
I put an offroad H pipe on my 97GT, knowing it would make more power, sound better and wouldn't hurt milage. So far, I'm getting about 1 to 1.5mpg better actually. I wanted milage and power, so what?
I am stating, you shouldn't be worried about getting good mpg with a v8 motor with engine mods even with a daily driver.
Maybe you're not, but I hardly think that puts you in the situation to decide what anyone else with a V8 should be worried about. The question was asked, either answer it or bow out gracefully, but there's no need to proclaim from on high what other people should be worried about.
Of course it does. Anyone who talks about adding cams and spraying nitrous, shouldn't be worried about gas mileage
Have you even read the entire thread or just replied to a few posts here and there?Still waiting on you to give a reason why, other than because you say so. It's been stated by several people in this thread that horrible mileage isn't necessary just because you have modded your car.
Though you've got me on the nitrous, I can't see how that could be good for the mileage.
Have you even read the entire thread or just replied to a few posts here and there?
My point is NOT about how much mpg you will lose or gain. It is about not worrying about it PERIOD! He has bolt ons cam and possible head work with Nitrous. When you modify a car MPG shouldn't be the focus. The set up and the power gained for their goals is what matters. That is like me going with a 324 ci bigbore kit with MPH race heads/cams and nitrous and ask, hey how much gas mileage will I get? Can I still get 24 mpg?
What you are arrogantly ignoring, is the fact that milage can be part of the ultimate goals. It isn't all about power gains and 1/4 mile times when you are modifying a STREET car. Different people have different goals. Ford made compromises between cost, milage, power, comfort, ect. By modifying, we are changing these compromises for ones we value more.
We arn't talking about a race car here after all! If we were, then what you say is true.
If you have to ask that when you are doing internal engine work and adding nitrous to your engine, then you have other issues that you should be asking yourself.Once again, I ask WHY should milage not be a concern when modifying a car? It is narrow minded and ignorant to think it isn't a concern for a street car, much less a daily driver.
You clearly don't understand that a street car or daily driver is a balance of citeria (power, milage, comfort, ect), so I am done with this conversation until you prove that you arn't half as ignorant as you have shown yourself to be thus far.
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