G Force T-5 upgrade

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Im looking into a tranny this winter. I was very adiment about getting a TKO. I know that there is a few things that get changed when going to a Tremic. The cost is near 1800.00.

I recently looked into the G Force. I noticed that their is a T-5 upgrade with is 1018.00 and will put it up to 600HP and 580 Torque. They will install it for 250.00. I dont mind doing it though.

Does anyone have any experence with the G Force?? Its a hell of a difference in price compared to the Tremic. MMFF has so good stuff to say about it too.

 

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i have not priced them - are they that cheap? i thought they cost a LOT more.
interesting.

 

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I just went to there site a little while ago. The have two kits to up grade the T-5. One is 1018.00 and the other is like 1600.00. The more costly kit has some thing in it called a dog bone collar or something like that. Ill have to call them on monday. They offer the kit installed in a tranny already for I think 2000.00. But The kit is not a bad price.

Like I said I would do it my self. Ive never yet had a person turn a wrench on my car and will not start now. From block machining to gears. It just take time and reading up, not to mention to be some what mechanically inclided.

 

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manpowermustang said:

I just went to there site a little while ago. The have two kits to up grade the T-5. One is 1018.00 and the other is like 1600.00. The more costly kit has some thing in it called a dog bone collar or something like that. Ill have to call them on monday. They offer the kit installed in a tranny already for I think 2000.00. But The kit is not a bad price.

Like I said I would do it my self. Ive never yet had a person turn a wrench on my car and will not start now. From block machining to gears. It just take time and reading up, not to mention to be some what mechanically inclided.

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thanks for the info.

do you have a machine shop in your garage?

 

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I wish I did. I live in a Townhouse w/ a one car garage. I work in a tight area but I make it work to serve the porpuse. Its really not all that bad. If I didnt have so many beer cans in their it would be nice. I just by a few thing her a their. I dont even have a vise or a bench grinder. (X-mas I hope, plus wrachet wrenches). Im doing my diff right know so its on my work bench. With the car up on jacks it a bit harder.

 

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I'm getting the g-force upgrade this week. My Cobra Z upgrade grenaded 2 weeks ago driving home from dinner.

The research I did says that the G-Force is the best option for me. I already have the Pro5-0 shifter, the bell housing and the case so it's the most cost-effective option. And they're strong as hell!

 

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Where are you getting yours and how much are you paying for it?

 

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What things on a TKO 500 need to be changed aside from the clutch disk? I was under the impression that it's a pretty straight forward swap.

 

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I think the slip yoke has to be changed too. The TKO 600 needs the bellhouing and all the other junk right?

I hate making these desisions! It will bug me for days till I decide what to do, then Ill wonder for some more days if it was right. Then Ill drive it and love it, of course then soon to fallow will be "I wonder if the other tranny wonld be better!!" :damnit:

 

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I don't know if this well help your decision making process or make it harder but.... If either the TKO 500 or 600 were available when I bought my new tranny a few years ago, there would have been no question. The abuse everyone says the TKO will handle makes the swap worth it all by itself.

Edit: Ah yes... clutch disk, slip yoke, and the tranny crossmember has to be modded for the 500. Thanks

 

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I am also going to be doing a G-force t5 swap on my car in the future. The dog ring upgrade is for those who are doing an all out race car. I allows you to shift without a clutch. If you are driving your car on the street use the standard synchros. Now ive also heard that the tranny has to be a world class tranny for the upgrade kit to work. Good luck.

 

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69Rcode_Mach1 said:

I am also going to be doing a G-force t5 swap on my car in the future. The dog ring upgrade is for those who are doing an all out race car. I allows you to shift without a clutch. If you are driving your car on the street use the standard synchros. Now ive also heard that the tranny has to be a world class tranny for the upgrade kit to work. Good luck.

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No the tranny does not have to be a world class. I called them thinking about getting one, and they told me as long as i have a T5, be it working or not, i can use it for the swap. Sure the gears on the Gforce swap can handle the 500hp or so depending on your set up, but the gears aren't the weak point on the T5, its the case. You can get the the X2C TKO tranny that can handle 800hp, and 750 ft lbs of torque for $1849 http://www.x2cmotorsports.com/cart/shopper.exe?preadd=true&key=130. This isn't exactly something that you skimp on when building your car, you don't want your tranny going out on you so just get stronger than you need. Sure you are going to be paying more for it, but are you going to be able to brake a tranny like that anytime soon, I think not.

 

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manpowermustang said:

Where are you getting yours and how much are you paying for it?

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I'm getting it direct from G-Force and having it installed locally. The basic kit is $1095, I think. Total cost will be less than the Cobra upgrade that I blew up.

 

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if you get the G-5 get the new case they make for the T-5, might as well upgrade the whole thing; otherwise its just like using a forged crank in a stock roller block the things only as strong as its weakest link.

 

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I've also been debating on getting a G-Force T5 Kit. It's actually not bad for the price. Plus an extra $260 I think for the small soft parts. Also 5th isnt included, its only 1st - 4th. I really dont wanna swap a million things which is why the G-Force is so convenient. Bolts right up without any mods. I've never heard of anybody having probs with the G-Force gears.
http://www.gforcetransmissions.com/tran_t-5_price.asp