G-Force Tranny rebuild vs. TKO

[zenboy99]

How many people on here have done this? How easy is the rebuild? Since most people on here agree that TKO swaps are upwards of $2000, this seems like a logical thing to do. I've seen the rebuild kits run for $900, and I can still use the stock bellhousing, etc. I'm sure the TKO is a better setup and could handle more power, but I'm only making 338rwtq.

Discuss

 

[Killercanary]

I'm into my TKO swap for right at $2000, but I got a good deal on my TKO. Double check the TRUE cost of putting in the G force rebuild. I truely don't know it, but I was under the impression that it was higher than that. Also, even with stronger internals, you still have the same case that is prone to either break or "move." This moving motion is what causes the two shafts to seperate (especially in 3rd) and makes the gears only mesh with the tips of the gears... this is normally what leads to the most common failure in a T5... 3rd gear.

 

[Rootus]

I would figure closer to $1500 for the G-Force if you do the labor yourself, $1800 or so if you get one that has been converted already. I have a very recent quote for a TKO for about $2000.

Paul -- I don't think it's the case that's the problem, it's that the stock T5 shafts are weak, and they bend. 3rd fails because it's in the middle of the shafts and gets the least contact patch under load. The G-Force internals are stronger so they do not bend.

Dave

 

[zenboy99]

Here's a link I found for a kit, it doesn't include the syncro's though.

http://www.4speeds.com/t5/gforce.html

What else should I buy since I'd have the tranny torn apart?

Would this rebuild kit help?
http://www.5speeds.com/kit.htm

 

[Killercanary]

Thanks Dave. I have heard internet rumors of the cases still flexing though... but they may just be rumors.


The 3550 trans has the same main shaft as the T5.... that's somthing for those concidering it to think about. That is why I didn't get one of those... I bent three of them in my T5.

 

[Grn92LX]

I'm about to buy a low mileage TKO for my car with a pro 50 shifter. $1,100 shipped, can't beat that I, personally think you cant go wrong either way, but for me buying a new tranny was just too much money. I like the g force and its .59 5th and the fact that its lighter. If I was buying new it would be between a tko 500 or a G force with the extras. Tough choice IMO and you dont need a new bellhousing or a shifter. I'm probably gonna get a mcleod blow proof and index it. I plan on using it with the 347 stroker I have planned so the tranny is gonna sit in my garage until I start the motor project. Should make it easier to index it. Instead of buying the 31 spline yoke for $79, I think im gonna get a 31 spline fms alum driveshatft for $200.

 

[mo_dingo]

Just a thought.

If the case is prone to "flexing", could you weld braces that start at the output shaft and go all the way to the front of the case?

I would think 4 braces, each at the corners of the transmission (i.e. 45, 135, 225 & 315 degrees) would do the trick.

Any thoughts?
Scott

 

[blackmagic94]

GForce are crooks, they took my money for 5 months before I finally got a refund for them not making me the rebulid kit. They suck, their product suck, and customer service sucks even more.

TKO II FOR LIFE

 

[Killercanary]

GForce are crooks, they took my money for 5 months before I finally got a refund for them not making me the rebulid kit. They suck, their product suck, and customer service sucks even more.

TKO II FOR LIFE

I've heard this oh too many times before, but I didn't want to spread internet gossip with no proof.... there is nothing like hearing it from the horses mouth though!



I suggest everyone looking into either of these trannies makes a call to either Bob Hanlon or Walt at Pro Motion Performance Powertrain. Walt's number is 800-771-6843 or 954-771-5575 or [email protected] Bob can be contacted through his website http://www.hanlonmotorsports.com I have worked with them both and have nothing but praise for both of them. Both deal with TTC and Gforce.

These are the guys I'd contact to answer the question of which is right for you. Let us know what they say.