Gauging interest in a turbo kit

10secgoal · Jan 28, 2006

I setting up right now to begin making kits for our cars. I want to make them affordable with good quality. Enough power to split a stock block. For right now, no IC's will be available. There are just too many variables. There will be options for a 351w as well as 302. Hopefully I can get this idea I have to work in 65-73, to include the 351w in a 65-66. The wastegate may be a little expensive, as I would like to be able to dump it back into the down pipe. I am waiting on emails right now to see what my cost will be so I keep these kits reasonable. As of right now I am looking to keep the kits well under 3k. No IC's right now because you just don't need them to split a stock block. Also, all of the welds as of right now are going to be tigged. I'm not looking to make a ton of dough of these kits. I don't have rent to pay, or employees. I just want you guys to know this stupid feeling of power. Wish me luck

tylerrocks · Jan 28, 2006

Less than $3000? Id be interested. single or twin?

180 Out · Jan 28, 2006

I'm interested too.

Question: is a 8.2" deck (302) any more likely to split than a 9.5" (351)? Also, do those lifter valley braces do any good?

LUCAFU1 · Jan 28, 2006

Gonna need a dart block by the sound of it. What turbo are you going with? What engine bay will you be using? Im planing on fabbing up my own kit, but I changed my plans alittle and deleted the towers.

Good luck!

Luis

Alarus · Jan 29, 2006

i think the idea is great, but i personally dont have the job to sink that much money into my car at a time...i have trouble trying to get enuf money for exhaust, carb, or a cam

10secgoal · Jan 29, 2006

LUCAFU1 said:
Gonna need a dart block by the sound of it. What turbo are you going with? What engine bay will you be using? Im planing on fabbing up my own kit, but I changed my plans alittle and deleted the towers.

Good luck!

Luis

Yeah, splitting the block of the 8.2 decks. Which most run. That's what I was talking about. The 351w, depending on prep will take over 500rwhp pretty reliably. A 351 to make that will need and intercooler,race gas, or water injection. I may move onto more complicated kits, but for now what to keep it affordable, and easy to build.I think the first headers are going to be a 351w in a 65. If I can fit those, they will go anywhere. This is going to be a pretty basic kit. Since no combo in these damn things are the same, what I plan to do is run the down pipe out, and to the toes on some kits. If the person wants to keep their old exhuast. Or I can run mandrels all the way out the back. The cost is basically going to depend on what I need to do.
As of right now, the kits are going to be a big single. Probably a T-61 with a
.68 or .81 housing. And for the 351's, a T-70 like the ones a ton of people are running with a .81 or .96 housing. All this depends on the power goals. A T-61 can certainly give a 351 a swift kick in the ass, and be enough if you aren't looking to make 800hp.
Right now, getting the basics...Turbo,wastegate, and BOV is going to be around 1050-1300 just to get started. Hopefully this is on the high side, but we'll see. And as of right now, AC and P/S are out the window. Sorry.

Dark Knight · Jan 29, 2006

I doubt you'll be able to get exhaust to clear with a 351 in a 65-66..
this is a dual setup in a FB

there just isnt that much room...

brianj5600 · Jan 29, 2006

If a 65 with a 351 can use a shorty header dumping at the back, it must be possible to get them past the shock towers. Forward facing shorties should also work. Tight, yes, but I think it is possible.

10secgoal · Jan 29, 2006

Exactly what I'm thinking Brian. But DK, all that cleared . The only real hard part is getting the DP out.
I would like to find sombody locally that has all the money right now. That way he can get it on the road a little while after I get it done.
How important is it to you guys not to have to drill a 5in hole in the fender apron to get the K&N out of the engine bay.

Jester67 · Jan 29, 2006

If it is where the battery use to sit a lot of people have had to or need to replace the sheet metal there anyway so it is not original steal anyway.

classic boost · Jan 29, 2006

no way, jose. forward facing shorties don't come close to fitting on a '68 with a 351, so foward shorties on a '65 with a 351 is a pipe dream.
10secgoal, i took the pics of my dp, email me your addy, and i'll send them to you. turbo68@neo.rr.com

brianj5600 said:
Forward facing shorties should also work. Tight, yes, but I think it is possible.

brianj5600 · Jan 29, 2006

paul302 said:
no way, jose. forward facing shorties don't come close to fitting on a '68 with a 351, so foward shorties on a '65 with a 351 is a pipe dream.

I was not thinking off the shelf shorties. I was thinking of a header designed for that purpose only. I think it is possible.

10secgoal · Jan 29, 2006

Right... They are definetly going to be log type. That's why if I can get them to work with a 351w in a 65-66, they have to fit damn near everything else. Logs can still get you 10's, even if you hit the brakes when the DP falls off and you lose 14MPH right ? Damn, take it back !! We (I) want real numbers.

zm830101 · Jan 29, 2006

what accessory set up do you plan on running?

DarkoStoj · Jan 29, 2006

you find a way to make a turbo work in a 68 with a/c and powersteering with a 351w and you have a buyer right here.

classic boost · Jan 29, 2006

DarkoStoj said:
you find a way to make a turbo work in a 68 with a/c and powersteering with a 351w and you have a buyer right here.

lol, if he could do that, he would be a magician and could make his own money out of frogs.

DarkoStoj · Jan 29, 2006

paul302 said:
lol, if he could do that, he would be a magician and could make his own money out of frogs.

thats why I said he has a guaranteed buyer right here

Rear mounted turbo?

10secgoal · Jan 29, 2006

DarkoStoj said:
thats why I said he has a guaranteed buyer right here

Rear mounted turbo?

I think if you were willing to cut a hole here, or two, it could be very possible. But the thing is, until I've made a few bucks from a few of these, I can't affored to go buy all the stuff needed to mock it all up. Right now, the cars I'm going to use for the mock ups are free, but not mine to hack up. NOW, if there was a guy here locally that had those options, I could set it up, and make a jig for your car. Only times going to tell as of right now.

DarkoStoj · Jan 29, 2006

10secgoal said:
I think if you were willing to cut a hole here, or two, it could be very possible. But the thing is, until I've made a few bucks from a few of these, I can't affored to go buy all the stuff needed to mock it all up. Right now, the cars I'm going to use for the mock ups are free, but not mine to hack up. NOW, if there was a guy here locally that had those options, I could set it up, and make a jig for your car. Only times going to tell as of right now.

I really like Paul's setup, but A/C is too important to me

10secgoal · Jan 29, 2006

It's going to look a little like Pauls kit. The only problem that I see is his wastegate. It holds 15 psi just fine, which is alright because he wants 20 in a little bit. But most of ours motors won't be able to take that kinda power. Wastegate location is kinda tricky when you have only a little space. It's placement is very important if you want to keep boost low. If it can't vent alot of gas, you get boost creep, and blown head gaskets. I was only able to vent one side(not recomended), and with only a 38mm wastegate. I put it in the best place I could on my system, but it didn't allow me to return the exhuast back into the down pipe. Which can be a little loud when it vents. Not what most people are going to want in a street car.
So the first ones are going to be basic until I can get the funds to buy extra things, such as P/S and AC to build around.

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