I've read that if i do the granada disk-brake swap, my old rims may not fit around the new wheel hubs, question, how can I tell if this will be the case before I go out and spend the money to do the swap?
Granada
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68rustang
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68rustang said:
It's a '68 coupe (w/ a 289.) The wheels...not sure what they are called (I'm fairly new to Mustangs, when I was young and stupid I liked imports) but I can describe them: Alloy outter ring, with 5 black (apparently painted) "spokes" with a delta shape to them.
golf4283
Active Member
Clearance is tight, but not a deal-breaker.
I have 'em, but I've always had the Torq Thrusts, and they clear just fine. My buddy has Granadas on his 65 'vert with stock Styled Steel wheels, and all he did was take a grinder to a corner of the calipers and they clear. Not major surgery at all.
Edit: based on Cheapie's reply, I seem to remember my buddy having the hub machined a little bit. I don't think it was expensive or difficult to have done though. Thanks for the memory jog Cheapie.
I have 'em, but I've always had the Torq Thrusts, and they clear just fine. My buddy has Granadas on his 65 'vert with stock Styled Steel wheels, and all he did was take a grinder to a corner of the calipers and they clear. Not major surgery at all.
Edit: based on Cheapie's reply, I seem to remember my buddy having the hub machined a little bit. I don't think it was expensive or difficult to have done though. Thanks for the memory jog Cheapie.
chepsk8
Founding Member
Wheel fit
I've got the Granada hubs on chepie, here's the deal:
The bearing hub is larger than all 65-70 wheel openings. the only wheels that fit no problem are the Magnums. Other wheels can be modified by slightly enlarging the center hole, or machining the hub smaller. Later wheels and aftermarket rims should be fine. for Chepie, I have early Keystone 14" wheels which look like torque-thrusts, and they fit fine. My spare rim came from the Granada donor car.
As for caliper clearance, the 65-67 styled steel wheels are tight with the caliper, as Blake sez. Later styled wheels clear the caliper no prob.
I've got the Granada hubs on chepie, here's the deal:
The bearing hub is larger than all 65-70 wheel openings. the only wheels that fit no problem are the Magnums. Other wheels can be modified by slightly enlarging the center hole, or machining the hub smaller. Later wheels and aftermarket rims should be fine. for Chepie, I have early Keystone 14" wheels which look like torque-thrusts, and they fit fine. My spare rim came from the Granada donor car.
As for caliper clearance, the 65-67 styled steel wheels are tight with the caliper, as Blake sez. Later styled wheels clear the caliper no prob.
Okay, maybe I should ask this: what diameter does the center hole need to have to clear the hubs?
chepsk8
Founding Member
I'm not sure, but it's not much, maybe 10-20 thousands needs to be turned off the hub or wheel. Anybody done this?
chepsk8 said:
I just talked to my buddy, and he said that he didn't remember a specific number, but he did remember that it was quite a bit. More than a few thousandths anyway. I'd just measure and give it a shot.
For the record, his 65 has logged quite a few miles over 7 or 8 years, and he's had no problems with the swap.
66 BLAKE 96 said:
Well, the whole reason for me worrying about it is, this car is a daily driver (also, one of the reasons for the swap) and it isn't for certain that I can afford to have the car out of commission while having hubs machined (not to mention that I wouldn't have the first clue where to have it done.)
Here is the car btw. Can someone name those rims? Just so I can actually explain my car to people haha.
For those wondering, it's got a rebuilt (I don't believe it has been overbored but I don't know everything about it) 289, stock heads, edelbrock intake, holley 650 4bbl carb. I recently put ona new alternator and start (std autozone crap, but it works...did you know you can bend a ratchet taking out an upper mounting bolt?) I'm trying to get the heater going in it again but I'm afraid I'm gonna have to put a whole new heater box in as just replacing the core didn't do to much, plus the blower is sounding rather poor. The interior is in pretty good shape, although I think I'm going to redo it black (leather or pleather seats, currently blue cloth.) I also redid the front suspension with stock control arms, stock springs (though they looked shorter than the old ones...fun to get in either way) and KYB gas-a-just shocks. New tie rods. Still gotta do the strut rods, pitman arm, idlerarm and centerlink, but I'll probably do those about the same time as the brakes.
I've got a T-5 waiting for me to put it in (would be this weekend but I have my drill weekend this weekend, so it'll have to be next weekend.)
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For those wondering, it's got a rebuilt (I don't believe it has been overbored but I don't know everything about it) 289, stock heads, edelbrock intake, holley 650 4bbl carb. I recently put ona new alternator and start (std autozone crap, but it works...did you know you can bend a ratchet taking out an upper mounting bolt?) I'm trying to get the heater going in it again but I'm afraid I'm gonna have to put a whole new heater box in as just replacing the core didn't do to much, plus the blower is sounding rather poor. The interior is in pretty good shape, although I think I'm going to redo it black (leather or pleather seats, currently blue cloth.) I also redid the front suspension with stock control arms, stock springs (though they looked shorter than the old ones...fun to get in either way) and KYB gas-a-just shocks. New tie rods. Still gotta do the strut rods, pitman arm, idlerarm and centerlink, but I'll probably do those about the same time as the brakes.
I've got a T-5 waiting for me to put it in (would be this weekend but I have my drill weekend this weekend, so it'll have to be next weekend.)
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chepsk8
Founding Member
Wheels
Looks like the wheels I have on Chepie! Are they 14" Keystones? If so, they fit with no mods needed.
Looks like the wheels I have on Chepie! Are they 14" Keystones? If so, they fit with no mods needed.
69stang351
New Member
chepsk8 said:
actually, i have front disc brakes off a 76-78 granada, and then i purchased stock 96 gt rims and the center hole is too small, so these rims will not fit around the hub on my 76-78 granada disc brakes. so you may want to measure the center hole/hub opening, before you purchase them so you are sure of a perfect fit.
Look VERY VERY VERY similar!!! The spokes on mine are definitely painted (don't know if they came that way or? either or I like their look), and they are 14".chepsk8 said:
Other than the spoke color they are basically identical. If that is what they are then I think I've found my swap!!! Drum brakes downright scare me...
rhyno9
Founding Member
granada rotors test fitment
Here is what you do. Go to a good auto parts store that will allow you to return the item. Buy 1 rotor for the granada. Bring it home pull the wheel and try to fit it in the wheel. If it fits great then you will only have to buy the other rotor and bearings if not you return the the rotor you bought. Because there is a 98% chance that you will need to replace the rotors anyway you already have one. IIRC I paid 30 for a rotor from carquest when pepboys wanted something like 60 bucks. So it pays to shop around.
Here is what you do. Go to a good auto parts store that will allow you to return the item. Buy 1 rotor for the granada. Bring it home pull the wheel and try to fit it in the wheel. If it fits great then you will only have to buy the other rotor and bearings if not you return the the rotor you bought. Because there is a 98% chance that you will need to replace the rotors anyway you already have one. IIRC I paid 30 for a rotor from carquest when pepboys wanted something like 60 bucks. So it pays to shop around.
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