97--cobra said:Car and driver does the first production car road test and puts the gt 500 up against the 06 6 soeed corvette (not a Z06).
On paper the Mustang has 100 more hp.
On paper the Mustang weighs in at a horribly fat 3,896 lbs.
The vette weighs only 3280.
So don't tell me Ford can't make the Mustang lighters, as the corvette has stayed virtually the same weight since the c4 of the 80's....
Onto the acceleration runs....
Gt 500: Vette
0to 60: 4.5 - 4.3
0-100: 10.3 - 9.8
0-150: 30.3 - 26.8
1/4 mile: 12.9@112 - 12.8 @113
At Grattan Raceway raceway the GT 500 was 3 seconds a lap slower.
Car and driver questions the true power output of the GT 500, as even with the 600 lbs of extra weight over the vette they think it still should have outrun it in the straight line...
What do I think?
Three years ago I was in the market for a Mustang to replace my 2000 6 speed FRC Corvette (I slipped over to the dark side for about 10 months, missing my Mustang the whole time). I was about to purchase a Saleen S 351 R. I happened by the Ford dealer the day before I went to test drive the Saleen, there was one of the first 03 Cobras I had ever seen. I thought maybe I want a new car this time. I pulled in and test drove a bright orange 03. I was very dissapointed with everything except for the supercharger whine. My virtually stock Vette would smoke it. The 03 cobra had great power, but was a pig, and the new GT 500 is even more of a pig.
Car and driver goes on to say that a 03 Cobra would outrun the new GT 500. Its just too fat.
If I were in the market for a new car right now I would sadly have top pick the C6 over the GT 500. The best factory Mustang ever made is also the fattest...
I know a pulley and a tune can change a lot of this. But how light could we get a GT 500 and still keep it compfortable to for the street?
I await the next Cobra R and hope for gets it right and gets the weight down to 3,000 lbs. Hell, I'd settle for 3,200....
Even my s351 weighs a little too much at 3360 lbs, but its still 500 lbs lighter than a GT 500.....
Not to say ford did not make a good car with the GT 500 (if you like the retro look), but they could have made one of the GREATEST cars of all time, but they chose to make a fat pig.
helty said:Good point, but there's not a C6 LS2 in stock form that can run a 12.25 at any track, on any day, Z51 or not.
Now, I dont know all the details of that run, who drove it, and if it was done on stock rubber; Im assuming it was. If O'Connell is actually reporting a 12.25 and they used Drag Radials or something, then thats BS and I'll eat my words. Im going out on a limb and trusting that SVT is being up front about it.
I think both cars are awesome. Ive driven a C6 and it was nice. You said it, the GT500's weight is what kills it. Just seems that no matter what SVT does, theres always something that slows them down at the strip. Like an IRS in the 03/04s, and the GT500 being a fat-ass.
stock C6? sorry, but thats not happnin. my buddy has an '05 C6 Z51. he's done his research, he's seen all the times. they are low 12 sec cars from the factory. add DRs and there have been only a handful that dipped into the 11s. they only have ~350 rwhp/350 tq stock.Stang|ess said:I have a video clip of a stock c6 on drags running 11.58 @ 116.
DerekStangGT said:DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE NEW GT500. ford must be on crack/hash/heroin/pcp/stimulants etc for letting that gt500 go into production like that. i got a magazine last night, i think it was the C&D. anyway, they tested the GT500 at 4,1xx lbs!!!! who the HELL builds a sports car/super car that weighs over 4k lbs?!?! im thoroughly disappointed in ford. i never thought i'd say this, but im actually starting to like where chevy is going. their new C6 model corvette is really nice, and truly what a modern muscle car should be like-high hp/tq, low weight, indie rear, solid suspension.
helty said:You know regardless of what this thing does stock, just think about this: pulley swap, tune, exhaust, maybe a CAI will do for this thing? Throw on a set of MT ETs and see how deep into 11s it will go.
GT02MG said:Car and Driver are tards when it comes to drag racing.....12.90 please....that car is going to make better times than that...wait until Evan Smith gets behind the wheels and you will see those times drop like no other.
I think everyone should just be happy with the car they own and just try and have fun
McTeague said:Why is the GT500 so heavy?
i think the modern muscle car has gotten much more refined than the old heavy a$$, huge displacement, raw powered muscle car of the 60s-70s. the general auto enthusiast population is now calling for a car that has the power to go straight, as well as the technology to turn. IMO the old muscle cars were so unbelievably straight line biased that many were turned off to the solid rear entirely. dont get me wrong, there are many who still favor a solid rearend, like myself at times, but i think the technological advances in independant suspensions have corrected many inherent flaws in early indie rears. wheel hop is/will always be an issue, but not even to the extremity it used to be. for example, the C6's lateral leif spring design, or whatever they call it, on the Z51 package. i almost wet myself the first time i crawled under that car and looked. my buddy has launched the balls outta that car ('05 C6 Z51) and gotten very very little, if any, wheel hop.svttech76 said:I was with you untill the indie rear.. corner carvers might like them but I can't stand them.
I was very disapointed when I saw the weight of this car.
comparing it to America's Supercar? IMHO Shelby is and always was "America's Supercar". Ive never considered a vette a supercar until chevy put out the new Z06. that thing is def worthy of being called a supercar.CatmanJJ said:Who gives a **** about all the haters, GT500 will be bad ass nonetheless, just that fact that others are even comparing it to "Americas Supercar" is compliments enough. I'm sure in the right hands the GT500 will own a regular C6, just like the Terminator did to the C5.
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