Has anyone checked out AJE's new front end?

okibono said:

lol, thats good to hear. More early Fords w/ quality hp in them...
10sec, its fun spending other peoples money, huh?

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Yeah. That's the best part. I tell them they're options, let them wiegh it out. It helps I'm not the owner yet. That way they don't think I'm out to take their mone by buying lots of expensive parts. Doesn't matter to me what they get. I get paid either way, and have a blast putting it on.(and driving )

Here are some images of the AJE kit:

http://www.projectparts.net/Mustang/AJE/64_70_Mustang_002.jpg

http://www.projectparts.net/Mustang/AJE/64_70_Mustang_003.jpg

http://www.projectparts.net/Mustang/AJE/64_70_Mustang_004.jpg

http://www.projectparts.net/Mustang/AJE/64_70_Mustang_001.jpg

Why are the shock or now strut towers different? One is shaved back and the other is shaped a little different?

How much work are we talking to install this?

Does it come with the R&P?

I guess my SSBC disc brakes would not work on this?


Sorry for all the questions but this looks like something I would be interested in.

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I think it just demonstrates that the towers can be shaved if desired. But you don't have to.

mustang sub frame kit??????

i see that someone has scanned an ad for a mustang mini sub-frame kit.

Has anyone used this kit? what are the advatages or disadvantages of eliminating the strut-rods?

can this kit be used with rack and pinion down the road?

Looks like a good way to beef up the suspension along with some roller perches maybe?

I am just looking for some feedback because i have never seen anything like this kit.

thanks

freddyfender said:

i see that someone has scanned an ad for a mustang mini sub-frame kit.

Has anyone used this kit? what are the advatages or disadvantages of eliminating the strut-rods?

can this kit be used with rack and pinion down the road?

Looks like a good way to beef up the suspension along with some roller perches maybe?

I am just looking for some feedback because i have never seen anything like this kit.

thanks

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last time i check their website they didn't have the mustang kit listed yet, i'm eagerly awaiting the release of this kit myself, looks like a viable alternative to a regular strut rod style suspension. global west is supposed to have a new coilover kit for the 65-66 cars that looks similar to the CPP kit but beefier, and susbstantially more expensive as well but they don't have it listed on their website yet either.

here is a link to CPP's website

http://www.classicperform.com

It's a MacPherson strut suspension. WHY would you give-up an unequal length upper/lower control arm suspension for an under-steering, cannot get the tire to do what you want it to do and can only get the car around a corner by making the suspension hard as rocks the way Porsche has t do with its Mac front ends?
But that is just me...I HATE UNDERSTEER!!!!

mikethebike said:

It's a MacPherson strut suspension. WHY would you give-up an unequal length upper/lower control arm suspension for an under-steering, cannot get the tire to do what you want it to do and can only get the car around a corner by making the suspension hard as rocks the way Porsche has t do with its Mac front ends?
But that is just me...I HATE UNDERSTEER!!!!

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the AJE system but the CPP system is not, it converts the lower control arm and strut rod combo to a true A-arm lower and still utilizes the stock or stock style upper control arms. read the entire thread before you start commenting, this thread has not been active for several months until today and the only posts today are referring to the CPP system

Further thread hijacking: check out this rear suspension system, from an outfit called Highland Daytona Racing, that they call a "Satchell Link" system:









It's in the October Hot Rod mag's "new products" section and got some between-the-shows coverage on Spike Power Block with Courtney last weekend. Currently available for the 2nd gen Crapmaro, but a classic Stang kit is in the pipeline. $3200 is the "introductory" price, $400 off the regular price. http://www.hdrcoupe.com/pages/satchell-link-suspension.php

Everything heim joints, everything double shear.

Next, check out this birdcage they're marketing for the 2nd gen Cambirds:



Just $8550 plus shipping.

65FBE2 said:

Actually, a strut will add negitive camber as it travels up and this is very desirable in a road race car. In all but the most radical full bore race car set up, this stuff will out perform the other guys on the block. Lets face it, most of the vintage mustangs out on a road course are hot street cars. If they are full time race cars they need to qualify for vintage class rules that will not allow any of the new modern suspensions. Look to Cobra Automotive for suspension systems that are vintage legal. If you race your car like I do, at open track events. I will put the RRS system up against the best out there. The RRS guys are full tilt racers in AUS. and this stuff was engieered for their race cars. I know I sound like a commercial for RRS but I did a ton of research before I bought. This stuff is too expensive to make a mistake on.

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Right, it gives a camber gain...but you cannot control it the way you can with a upper/lower arm. It just cannot happen, that is why Porsche builds their bodys super strong with very little flex. They can then put extremly hard springs on the car and it won't jar you as much as it would if the body structure was weaker. They even brag about this in the new Cayman coupe.
And as far as out-performing the other guys on the block..why does a 93-2002 Z/28 beat the hell out of ANY late model mac front Mustang in the corners. BTDT. My STOCK f-41 Z/28 would out corner any front engine MacPherson strut car I ever run aganist. Including 06 330-I BMW's and 'M' Z-3's. Right across Paris Mtn. and down the Blue-Ridge Parkway. They NEVER pulled me in the corners. And you don't want
to talk about what a C-5 Vette will do to a front engined MacPherson car.
The Mac was designed as a low-cost IFS for economy cars. BMW and the Japs jumped all over it and even BMW has put an unequal-lenght upper/lower control arm IFS on the new X-5. WHY do yo think that is? Because the Mac is better? Don't think so.
If you want a good IFS for an early Mustang I would recommend the Global-West.