KCIR is what came to mind for me too. "Noise" complaints, greed and dirty Jackson County politics.KCIR?
I quit bracket racing when the winner was either the 22.9 sec Vega that would run that number on Ice or at 120*, or the guy in the Malibu wagon that would leave the car in 2nd gear and make the entire run against a rev limiter set at 4K rpm. Both those guys cut a excellent light and their cars would run the number every time. They were the 2 slowest cars that showed up every weekend and the win always went to one or the other. They both had shoe boxes full of time slips to look at and compare. I seriously doubt that their times varied more than .002 for the whole weekend.Bracket racing... I participated for 1 season... at the "sportsman" level, aka no electronics, foot brake, radials, licensed and insured... the very lowest basic/entry level.
At that level it's not just about running the same every time.
You have to watch the weather and the track, you have to know how both effect your car, you have to change your dial to suit the weather/track, and you have to change your launch to suit the track, which again effects your dial... Anyone that thinks this is easy and boring has never done it competitively.
Back home d/a could swing 3000' in one day, and could go up and down and all around. Moisture could swing in. You might be put in #8 position behind a bunch of street tired cars in in elimination (try finding a grove after treaded cars have been peeling the rubber up), next elimination you might be #1 leaving right after a hard hitting slicks class (hot track, lots of rubber).
Knowing what is happening on the line, how to gt your car off the line, and how weather is going to effect your car, and, changing up launch/dial to suit round after round is far from easy.
It is more about knowing your car and how it is effected than it is simply putting it into "D" and standing on it.
Yep, on a perfect day when the weather stayed consistent, the newbie in the mini van had a chance... any other day and I wanted paired with that minivan.
I've had days where I was running 13.2's in the morning leaving hard and 13.7's in the afternoon feathering it out.
You are not just racing the guy in the other lane, you are racing youself.
Anyone that thinks that's easy to keep up with and predict is... well... better than me.
Finished 4th on the season, and missed 2 races, had one of the faster cars in "sportsman", and, yes, that has advantages too...
After all that, I prefer heads up.
100%, your opinion is exactly what my experience was, and is the point I was trying to make, thanks for making it crystal clear.Yeah, bracket racing is more calculating than racing...in my opinion.
See, that's the thing about heads up racing... $$$... and class racing is even more $$$.i think the rules of class racing and the amount of time and money it takes to run up front and stay there and just how boring bracket racing is has really caused these no time shoot outs to get popular. the grudge racing stuff is cool and all but it seems like mostly trash talking and not a lot of racing. ive been seeing a few stock block shoot outs around here the last few years. maybe i'll go **** some of those guys up. from the few guys ive talked to most of those guys run mid low 9s. guess i'll bring all the X275 tech to that and really piss them off
That's no po-dunk track... didn't they used to run SCCA events there... or IMSA? Pretty sure I've watched several sports car events from that track.Seeing abandoned tracks is sure sad. Not drag track but local road course near me was getting really bad and there was talk of it shutting down. Luckily some guy with deep pockets who liked to drive bought it and is on his way to bringing it back.
See, that's the thing about heads up racing... $$$... and class racing is even more $$$.
Yeah, even in street racing it takes money, a lot of time wrenching and testing, and dedication. There are a lot of guys that practically live at "Tha Pad" here in NOLA. They make and spend a lot of money out there. I don't have that kind of money or time. But I will make an appearance occasionally just to see where my car stands with the local competition.nah not how i took it more of an add on to reasons its dying... people come in for a year thinking its easy and just takes money. money will only get you so far unless your pockets are deep enough to pay someone to do everything.
guys get in and think dont understand how many hours it takes to run the numbers we do under the rules we have. to find 2-3 numbers is HUGE! you'll spend thousands of dollars and tons of hours and LOSE numbers. you have to be prepared for that and most guys arent. once the guys who are committed to finding every little bit of ET run off the guys who just arent willing to work that hard and keep going back to the drawing board when things dont go as planned, classes die off... once classes die off people stop coming to watch. which is where the tracks really make money! SPECTATORS!!!! which is why as much as i cant stand what its doing to racing the street outlaw guys have been great for the tracks. they pack the stands and get people out to the track.
I know SCCA and others have run there, stopped due to condition. Been there since early 60's, lot of history. I'm pretty sure with repave will be racing there again.See, that's the thing about heads up racing... $$$... and class racing is even more $$$.
That's no po-dunk track... didn't they used to run SCCA events there... or IMSA? Pretty sure I've watched several sports car events from that track.
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