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Having Problems separating my 302 and C4

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monk302

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Hey guys,

As the post said I am having some difficulty seperating the engine and transmission. So far I have done the following.

-removed five bolts that connect the bellhousing and engine
-removed 4 nuts that connect the flexplate and torque converter
-drained the torque converter
-separated the shifter from the trans
-disconnected the neutral safety and kickdown
-removed driveshaft
-drained tranny of fluid
-removed the c-4 trans crossmember
-removed the exhaust pipes from the headers

I have put the jack underneath the transmission pan and when I start to lower it I have been pushing the trans towards the rear of the car. It seems though that the two are still connected. Is that possible with the above listed? Are they usually difficult to remove? I am only using one jack and that is to support the transmission. I am not using a trolley jack. A

Anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks,

Mike
 

golf4283

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I would disconnect the starter. It probably is not the source of your problem but you don't wanna break any teeth yanking that sucker outta there. Otherwise maybe the tranny is just gunked on the back of the engine. Lots of years on the pair will probably have its toll on them getting kind of stuck together.

EDIT: definately take that starter out. it is probably what is causing the tranny to stay stuck together
 

geostang351

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Um, you said you removed 5 blots between the engine and bellhousing. There are 6 that hold the two together.
 
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mustangdave

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Transmission cooling lines and hose to vaccuum modulator also need to be disconnected, (right side of tranny). Also the trans dipstick tube is bolted to the engine. Depending on year the trans kickdown cable. Isn't there six bolts in the bellhousing? Check all that and let us know,
 

Max Power

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Yup, unless you have an early 289, you should have six bolts holding the engine to the tranny.
 

monk302

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Six bolts huh, I guess I will have to find that last one that is hanging on there.

-Starter is out
-Vacuum lines and cooling lines are removed (will I still be using the cooling lines?)
-dipstick is out
 
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MitchGT

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you won't need those cooling lines with the t-5. Since they go to the radiator, you can disconnect them there( or even get a radiator without tranny cooler). If your car isn't overheating, this probably isn't necessary, but sometimes every little bit helps.
 

65ShelbyClone

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geostang351 said:
Um, you said you removed 5 blots between the engine and bellhousing. There are 6 that hold the two together.
Click to expand...

That was the first thing that came to mind. If the trans is still stubborn with all fasteners removed, it could have a tight fit on the alignment dowels. You may have to very carefully pry between the engine and bell and work them apart. I had to do that on my 5.0 the first time it was out. The second time the engine just slid right out.
 

69Rcode_Mach1

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Just grab hold of the engine and wiggle it with all your might it will pop right off.
 
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