HCI 302 setup inside. 320whp attainable?

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-stock rebuilt block
-Twisted wedges
-N41 or FTI
-RPM 2
-24lb inj
-70mm tb
-4.30s

looking for at least 320, would not mind 330. looking to rev to about 6500. I was wondering how much RPMS the stock TW springs can take.

 

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AFR 165, FTI custom, PRM ll port matched, proven 320rwhp.

 

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Maybe....with a good tuner to get the most out of it it could happen.

 

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I'm making 310hp/330tq and the rear wheels on a 120K short block and it had a dead miss at 4800 rpms. The new MSD distributor and coil solved the miss but I haven't re-dyno'ed it to confirm if there is any improvement without the 4800 rpm miss.

I added AFR165 58cc heads, Comp XE 258 cam, Cobra intake, 65mm TB, 70MM MAF, 1.6 RR, 24lb injectors, unequal length headers, 2-1/2 inch cat'ed x-pipe and the few other maintenance type pieces to the engine plus a tune to make it all work together.

This engine combo far exceeds my driving ability on the street. Well let say it's a real kick in the pants and a very reliable N/A combo.

I would post some pictures but I seem to be struggling with that right this minute.

 

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frost said:

I'm making 310hp/330tq and the rear wheels on a 120K short block and it had a dead miss at 4800 rpms. The new MSD distributor and coil solved the miss but I haven't re-dyno'ed it to confirm if there is any improvement without the 4800 rpm miss.

I added AFR165 58cc heads, Comp XE 258 cam, Cobra intake, 65mm TB, 70MM MAF, 1.6 RR, 24lb injectors, unequal length headers, 2-1/2 inch cat'ed x-pipe and the few other maintenance type pieces to the engine plus a tune to make it all work together.

This engine combo far exceeds my driving ability on the street. Well let say it's a real kick in the pants and a very reliable N/A combo.

I would post some pictures but I seem to be struggling with that right this minute.

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Sweet. what kind of gear are you running? what are you using to tune with? I'm going to have just about the same combo but with a n41 cam and longtubes

 

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yeah, that combo should get you damn close to your goal.

frost: a bit more agressive intake and you get 320rwhp.

 

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good tune yes

 

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need a fast car said:

Sweet. what kind of gear are you running? what are you using to tune with? I'm going to have just about the same combo but with a n41 cam and longtubes

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I'm running a 3.55. I ran across a wrecked 5-speed 87 Turbocoupe Thunderbird which the rearend has 3.55's standard so it worked out great. I needed the TC rearend for my 93 Cobra rims anyway. It's a very nice gear for my combo.

Good luck with your biuld.

 

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N8Miller said:

yeah, that combo should get you damn close to your goal.

frost: a bit more agressive intake and you get 320rwhp.

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You are probably right about the intake but I am partial to the 93 Cobra's and my calibrated right foot probably couldn't tell the difference in the extra 10 or so horsepower.

This N/A conbo is a very streetable and reliable. Adding a supercharger would be awsome but that would spell trouble for me because I would HAVE to use all of the hp everytime I got behind the wheel.

 

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Have a look at my engine database to see if there is something close to your combo.

http://www.302w.com/engine_database/engine_database.aspx

 

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frost said:

I'm making 310hp/330tq and the rear wheels on a 120K short block and it had a dead miss at 4800 rpms. The new MSD distributor and coil solved the miss but I haven't re-dyno'ed it to confirm if there is any improvement without the 4800 rpm miss.

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Can you add your engine to my db? The more we add the better for others building 5.0's.

 

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I believe that intake will flow plenty.

If you get a bit higher on compression and maybe lose the a/c or p/s you will get even closer, if not exceed it for sure.

 

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C0V3R said:

Can you add your engine to my db? The more we add the better for others building 5.0's.

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Dude I had a same idea for that...let me find it:
http://www.renaxgade.net/stang/combos.php

It never took off, looks like yours is doing nicely!

 

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The rpm II is more intake than that combo needs. Probably going to help max numbers and hurt average.

 

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Thats a good combo for 310-320 hp. Then save up for a turbo!

 

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304billet said:

AFR 165, FTI custom, PRM ll port matched, proven 320rwhp.

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Would this combo have any chance of passing smog testing?

 

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frost said:

You are probably right about the intake but I am partial to the 93 Cobra's and my calibrated right foot probably couldn't tell the difference in the extra 10 or so horsepower.

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The gains to be had from porting the Cobra are not just peak numbers.........I'm sure you could "tell".

 

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tmoss said:

The gains to be had from porting the Cobra are not just peak numbers.........I'm sure you could "tell".

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Tmoss,

You're right on.... I did clean up the runners and gasket matched the runners to the AFR's. It is a really nice combo that and truly all I need for my street driving habits. The combo pulls from the word go all the way up. Well up to about 5300 rpm where the hp curve peaks.

 

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Frost,

I have a combo very similar to yours. Recently, I have been experiencing a miss somewhere near 5000 rpm. I was first thinking it was the valve springs. Could it be the ignition system?

Before I started getting the engine miss, when I would spin this combo up past 5000 rpms, I could feel it flatten out. I would like to get this combo to pull hard to 6000 rpms. I had the Cobra lower ported by TMOSS. Is the cam the cause? What else can I do to get what I'm looking for?

 

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Peak numbers are great for bragging on the internet...

Great average power and torque is what wins the race...

There are plenty of 302-310 combos we've done with over 320 RWHP but it's the "mean" numbers we get from idle to redline that make them faster than the rest!

Ed