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Headlights stopped working after using high beams

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Ok all I just recently put up a post about trans fluid in the trans I just installed today. Good great got the car back on the road. Then when driving tonight I put the high beams on (not the flasher) they didnt work when to put it back to just the regular head lights now all that comes on is the parking lights. Dose anyone have issues with the combination switches going bad?
 

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Pull the headslight switch out and check the wires and connector, it gets brittle and the wires come loose when it gets hot.
If you are running aftermarket bulbs that are a higher wattage, remove them.
 

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They are the standard bulbs that came with the smoked headlight kit installed in the car. I pulled the swtich out all pins seems tight and the connector is tight as well any other suggestions?
 

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Fuse 4 is not blown, correct?

Assuming your fog lights were not on (or there's a relay on them):

I would check the in/out wiring at the multifunction switch (the TS switch, where power is directed to low or high beams). The wiring and wiring connectors have been problematic on some cars. There's a good chance the low beam feed backed out of the connector.

Info regarding the year of stang and trim (LX, GT, Cobra) would be helpful. On some years, the low beam wire color is red/blk.
 

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The fog lights were on at the time and its an 87 GT, it also looks like a fairly new multifunction swtich so this may have been an issue for the previous owner as well.
 

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Be careful not to use bulbs rated at more than 55 watt each. Using oversize bulbs can result in overheating the wiring harness and electrical fires. Definitely do the fog light fix.

SEE Mustang GT Fog Light Fix to fix the problem. The stock wiring isn't up to the job and is overheating. The headlight switch & turn/multifunction switch are affected by Ford's wiring problem. Sometimes it overheats so badly that the plastic shells of the wiring connectors start to melt. This will show you how to add a relay to the fog lights to relieve the overload on the headlight wiring.

I did mine differently, but I had to build my own wiring harness for the fog lights. This is more trouble than it is worth for most folks. I left all the wiring on the stock light switches in place and used the fog light wiring to power the relay coil. The other side of the relay coil is connected to ground. I have an inline fuse that picks up power from the battery side of the starter solenoid. It is connected to the relay contact. The other relay contact is connected to the new wiring harness I made for the fog lights.



The advantage of making your own fog light wiring harness is that you can run 100 watt fog light bulbs. The stock wiring harness will not use 100 watt bulbs without overloading and causing a fire.

Unless you are good at electrical wiring, have the skills and tools (crimp tool, soldering gun, heat gun for the heat shrink tubing, etc.) I recommend that you stick with the Corral method.

Technical explanation of why the wiring and switches overheat.
You asked for it...

I= Current
E= Voltage
R= Resistance
W= Watts

Two 55 watt fog lamps =110 watts. Find the current in the circuit
I= W/E
110 watts/14 volts = 7.85 amps for fog lights alone.
Since the lighting circuit supplies headlights, taillights, and parking lights, etc.

56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3156 corner light 28 watts each
90 watts 2 each GE Part # 9004 headlight 45/65 watts each (low beam)
63 watts 2 each GE Part # L194 parking light 31.5 watts each
56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3157 tail light 28 watts each
265 watts Total

Total other exterior lighting current
I=W/E
265 watts/14 volts = 18.92 amps
18.92 amps other exterior lighting current
+ 7.85 amps fog light current
26.77 amps with all exterior lights and fog lights on.

The 12 gauge power feed wire to the exterior lighting switch is rated at 20 amps
26.77
- 20.00
6.77 amps excess current

7.85 amps used by fog lights
-6.77 amps excess current
1.08 amps to run the fog lights left if you stay within the 20 amp limit of the wire.
With 1.08 amp of current, the fog lights probably won’t produce any useable light.

Added resistance required to reduce fog light current to permissible 20 amp limit
R=E/I
14 volts/6.77 amps = 2.06 ohms
Resistor wattage
W=EI
14 volts x 6.77 amps = 94.78 watts
You would need a 2 ohm, 100 watt resistor.

Light bulb ratings from http://www.roadparts.com/catalog/section30.pdf
Radio shack resistor catalog - no matches , and no combinations that could be used to make a 100 watt, 2 Ohm resistor.
See RadioShack.com

Ohm’s law – in case you have any questions about my formulas - Ohm's Law Calculators
 

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HISSIN50 said:
Fuse 4 is not blown, correct?

Assuming your fog lights were not on (or there's a relay on them):

I would check the in/out wiring at the multifunction switch (the TS switch, where power is directed to low or high beams). The wiring and wiring connectors have been problematic on some cars. There's a good chance the low beam feed backed out of the connector.

Info regarding the year of stang and trim (LX, GT, Cobra) would be helpful. On some years, the low beam wire color is red/blk.
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Hissin50 new to site have a ? for u bout a 94 5.0 not sure how to contact u through site
 

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Hissin50 new to site have a ? for u bout a 94 5.0 not sure how to contact u through site
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No problem. PM me. Click my username and click on the 'start a conversation' link.
 
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