Hello everybody..........
- Thread starter el negro
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What do you concider fast? My times are in my sig, I'd say I'm "quick." LOL! Check out Don95vert as he has a 10 second 'vert, that is what I'd concider "fast." Also check out Mike (oinkaodeoink) and JR's car. Check out the users 1/4 mile times at the top of this page, that may help too. There are also combos listed in the one sticky thread at the top as well, though it hasn't been updated in a while.
Well my car is not a vert but I do have a lot of experience with 1/8th mile tracks. With a track that size good low end torque is what you need to get a car as heavy as yours up and going. Traction is also key to going fast. And believe me going fast is directly related to the size of your bank account. But if you would like to drop a sec off of that time for cheap nitrous is the way to go. I could go on but I guess I need to know just how fast you want to go and more importantly how much you want to spend.
94-302-vert
Active Member
What's fast? That is the key?
Is a fast car one that cmoke the tires through two gears from a stand still or a car that can smoke two gears on the highway?
Chris
Is a fast car one that cmoke the tires through two gears from a stand still or a car that can smoke two gears on the highway?
Chris
2L8ULUZ2 said:
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Good to see you Robbie! So how is that combo running in the 1/8th now? Would you do the LR 306 if you had to do it over again. I'm looking into possibly rebuilding my shortblock right now and the LR setup has crossed my mind, but the searches I've done have come up with mixed results. It may help the poster of this thread too so I felt it was OK to ask here too.
im talking about going at least low 7s on the eight. money is not a problem here. I want fast but driveable. You know be fast and look good while doing it. I kinda want a set up that is good on the track and the street. Im just tired of imports here thinking they are fast. while running 9.1 or so in the eight but with 5 or 6 grand invested.I think thats ridiculous. but oh well theyll learn one of this days. killer whats your setup?
OinkAodeOink
Founding Member
Actually you can go decently quick with very little, if you go about it right..
Tires are key, weight transfer, and power..
If I were to do it again with another 94/95 I would do another single turbo keeping all accesories, throw injectors, mass air, and fuel pump at it.. along with a good tune, Drag radials, and some subframe conectors and good shocks/struts... If done right, thats an easy quick street car recipe. 10 second potential, easy 11's.
Or you can spend a little more time/money and do the built up n/a route or buy a blower/nitrous.
Tires are key, weight transfer, and power..
If I were to do it again with another 94/95 I would do another single turbo keeping all accesories, throw injectors, mass air, and fuel pump at it.. along with a good tune, Drag radials, and some subframe conectors and good shocks/struts... If done right, thats an easy quick street car recipe. 10 second potential, easy 11's.
Or you can spend a little more time/money and do the built up n/a route or buy a blower/nitrous.
bjl95mustang
Founding Member
Get a 351 block stroked to 408, 418, or 427. With the right heads, cam, and intake you will have loads of low end tq.
Killercanary said:
Well the long rod 306 is doing just fine. But to tell the truth if I had to do it all over again I think I would just go with a 331. I have not been to the track with it lately but I did play with a guy around here that has a 331 and I was able to pull on him by a fender so the car is making some power. The thing is I could have done a 331 for cheaper cause with the rpm capability of the motor I had to spend a lot of extra money to get the full potential out of this motor. It started with lifters designed to hold the rpm's of this motor, then it went to a new set of valve springs cause the standard ones for the heads were causing some valve float issues in the higher rpm's, and then I changed the cam again. Like I said the car def makes some good power but it seems that it is more for a 1/4 track than the 1/8th track. And that is why I am considering laying the nitrous to the car since it is more than capable of handling the nitrous. Don't get me wrong it's an awesome feeling to turn lots of rpm's with a V-8 and since I went to a borla XR-1 muffler the car sounds sweet at 6500rpms but I would really like to have the torque of a stroker.
Thanks Robbie! I've heard some "theories" of the long rod setup being good for a torquey low rpm setup as well due to increased piston dwell time at TDC, but I've also read that this is just theory. I too want as much torque as I can get, but I'm looking to do it with a 302/306 due to my top end parts. Thanks for the update! BTW- what kind of 1/8th mile times are you running?
el negro said:
-Stock shortblock
-AFR 165cc heads
-Edelbrock performer intake
-http://www.Flowtechinduction.com custom cam
-EEC Tuner
-65mm TB
-75mm MAF
-24lb injectors
-190lph pump
-FMS shorty unequal length headers
-bassani offroad X
-dynomax welded ultrflow mufflers
-TKO trans
-aluminum DS
-eaton differential
-31spline superior axles
-4.10 gears
-steeda tri-ax shifter
-new parts: PA racing tubular K member, A arms, strange coil overs, strange shocks and struts
That's the major parts. I dyno'd 304rwhp/331rwtq at the track when I ran 112.51mph.
With a setup like and a blower, you will have one quick mustang that's for sure.
Killercanary said:
You sure are running fast for 300 rwhp
. Do you have a vid of you racing/shifting? You must be a hell of a shifter. Just imagine your stang on nitrous or even better on boost? Hey, I have a question for you... Have you ever race your car without that wing? I have one too but took it off on the track and ran almost 3mph and .3 faster 
. Im going wingless now, kinda look for muscular.
Thanks! I actually ran 12.31 at 111mph with 294rwhp/327rwtq at about a 70lb heavier weight! LOL! I made a little video of my most recent runs, here's a link...
http://www.crossroadvideos.com/Player.aspx?fileid=2D8F4A73-63F7-4BC8-90C5-9DC1E68F61FE
I also put up an in car video of me shifting too not that long ago, I think someone hosted it for me, but I can't remember who it was. I had originally put it up with a link to yousendit.com, but I'm pretty sure someone hosted it on their site since more people wanted to see than yousendit would allow.
http://www.crossroadvideos.com/Player.aspx?fileid=2D8F4A73-63F7-4BC8-90C5-9DC1E68F61FE
I also put up an in car video of me shifting too not that long ago, I think someone hosted it for me, but I can't remember who it was. I had originally put it up with a link to yousendit.com, but I'm pretty sure someone hosted it on their site since more people wanted to see than yousendit would allow.
Here's the in-car video from this thread...
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=516752&highlight=shifting
Here you go...
http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01NY0QDNAMVLE1KP0VNUW4MYUK
And to answer your question about the wing... I have never ran without the S-351 wing. I tried running without the stock wing once and I gained nothing at all. Also, my car will be staying NA for as far into the future as I can see. I want to try my hand with a turbo mustang, so I picked up a '90GT that I'm going to start working on as soon as my car is back together.
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=516752&highlight=shifting
Here you go...
http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01NY0QDNAMVLE1KP0VNUW4MYUK
And to answer your question about the wing... I have never ran without the S-351 wing. I tried running without the stock wing once and I gained nothing at all. Also, my car will be staying NA for as far into the future as I can see. I want to try my hand with a turbo mustang, so I picked up a '90GT that I'm going to start working on as soon as my car is back together.
ProKiller said:
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Its in and it looks GOOD. Unfortunately I put the insurance on the car on a wed to drive and get it aligned, I then drove it to my parents to put it on the trailer, drag raced it on saturday and missed a shift and bent all the exhaust valves... needless to say I haven't driven it much at all. BUT, in worse weather conditions than I ran my 12.19 at 112.5mph I ran a 12.03 at 112.1mph, so it definitely worked just like I had planned. Thanks for asking! Will you be at Maple Grove and/or Carlisle this year? I will be at both, but without my car because it won't be finished by then.
gmkillr said:
Hmm, its weird but it did helped mine
maybe cause its still weak.anyway when to the track and ran a [email protected] with only weight reduction and short belt. I was shocked cause I only removed like 65 lbs.(remove the jack and spare, drivers seat, back seat, and strut brace, and last a little bit less an a 1/4 of gas 
.It was wether the weight or I might be getting a little better with this car. My 60s were a 1.9 on 275-40-17street tires. Does this sounds good? I only have a:Cold air from mac-didn't felt nothing.
Gears 3.73 - def. felt that.
h-pipe from Mac.
Steeda shifter
My race wight:3560 car by itself:3360
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