help buildin up the baby

foxbody89 · Sep 6, 2006

i have 5grand to spend on my car and i want to know what are the best things i can get with 5 grand to get power and great sound. but i was think about going with the track heat pakage from trickflow and getin the MUSTANG TREMEC TKO 500 TRANSMISSION +STAGE 3 CLUTCH.just let me know what u think

88Stang331 · Sep 6, 2006

What are your goals as far as power? Do you have any mods currently? What are you going to use the car for?

foxbody89 · Sep 6, 2006

my goal is low 12's high 11's.for street and strip but i kinda what a nice idle. i was thinkin about going with a high rev anderson cam. but dont know. o current mods are hooker headers with x pipin and dumps

88Stang331 · Sep 6, 2006

I would say stick with the TFS package, i believe thats about 2k for h/c/i. I'd put the rest in the driveline. Maybe a Spec clutch, and chassis stiffening (full length subframe connectors, torque box reinforcements) and a nice rear end. If you have any money left over, pick up a set of slicks, that should put you in the 12's easily.

I have heard about issues with the stiffness of the stage 3, so maybe a stage 2/2+ would be fine for your needs, and it will handle the power, and a little easier on your leg.

foxbody89 · Sep 6, 2006

but i want to go with a 331 stroker to

blkcobra50 · Sep 6, 2006

331 or 347 is great if you have the money for it. I would tend to think that if you went with a 331/347 short block, TFS top end kit, tranny and clutch is going to put you well over 5 grand even if you do the work yourself. But all of those pieces are great and if you have the money I'd say do it.

DSS 331/347 $1,800
TFS Track Heat Kit $2,000
TKO 500 $1,700
Spec Stage 3 $300

PJB · Sep 6, 2006

Car Craft's newest issue has a $4500 Mustang buildup. I just got the magazine in the mail today.

88Stang331 · Sep 6, 2006

blkcobra50 said:
331 or 347 is great if you have the money for it. I would tend to think that if you went with a 331/347 short block, TFS top end kit, tranny and clutch is going to put you well over 5 grand even if you do the work yourself. But all of those pieces are great and if you have the money I'd say do it.

DSS 331/347 $1,800
TFS Track Heat Kit $2,000
TKO 500 $1,700
Spec Stage 3 $300

I agree with everything, except the DSS 331, I would personally go with an internally balanced 331 unless your sticking with N/A. In which case the 347 would be the way to go, and don't worry about the oiling problem, companies like SCAT and Eagle don't have that problem with there kits.

ninety15.0 · Sep 6, 2006

Honestly i think a spec stage 3 will be overkill for your application and be excessively harsh on the drivetrain. I bought a stage II because i have a s trim going on my car shortly. The stage II is brutally grippy and like a lightswitch. Dont get me wrong i love the clutch, i wouldnt have anything else but...i dont see you making more than 400 hp @ the wheels so i would stick with stage II or a CF Dual Friction. The TKO is a good idea...but like some of the others said if you throw together an entire 331 and top end kit and all the supporting mods that you will need (inj., MAF, tuner, etc) you will be close to 5k as it is. Nevermind a complete drivetrain. I can give you one good piece of advice. SPend as much money as you can afford on everything you put on the car...that way you wont be upgrading cheap parts down the road. I personally would stay away from DSS...good luck

Mr. Rustypwnz · Sep 6, 2006

What mods do you have now? If you do a h/c/i package you can get into the 12's pretty easy and you'd have about 2500 left over.

GearHd6 · Sep 6, 2006

Can you still run 19 # injectors with the TFS track heat kit? What supporting components would it require, MAF, TB? Any recommendations?

Mr. Rustypwnz · Sep 6, 2006

You can, you would prolly want to run a 65mm tb, and 24 pounders, with the corresponding mass air.

GearHd6 · Sep 6, 2006

So 19#'s would barely cut it? And a 73-75mm MAF?

foxbody89 · Sep 7, 2006

i need everybodys op on what they would get if u have 5 grand to put down on power and things to run it

88Stang331 · Sep 7, 2006

If your goal is 12's, no need to dig into the internals, all you would need to do is a H/C/I swap, and the TFS kit should do that for you. I would also suggest going with mass air (pro M), and go with 24lb injectors to be safe. After all i don't know about you, but i'd rather run a little on the rich side, than lean and risk detonation.

Clutch is your preference, but you might want to ask around, and maybe call the people at SPEC and see what they would recommend.

I didn't notice anybody else say anything about this, so I'm gonna recommend you get some nice gears to put in the rear end, like a set of 3.73's if its a daily driver, and that should make your car loads more fun to drive.

blkcobra50 · Sep 7, 2006

88Stang331 said:
I agree with everything, except the DSS 331, I would personally go with an internally balanced 331 unless your sticking with N/A. In which case the 347 would be the way to go, and don't worry about the oiling problem, companies like SCAT and Eagle don't have that problem with there kits.

I stated a DSS 331 only as an option. Kind of like a price figure to see how much it would cost not necessarily the only short block available...

Also what is the condition of your current shortblock? How many miles on it?

foxbody89 · Sep 7, 2006

put it this way my car has a alot of miles on it. So.......

blkcobra50 · Sep 7, 2006

foxbody89 said:
put it this way my car has a alot of miles on it. So.......

331/347!

Dont forget to put machine work in the equation if you use your original block.

88Stang331 · Sep 7, 2006

I would have to agree with Cobra on this one and say that if your already going to be tearing into your engine, and putting some nice expensive pieces on it, you might as well replace the rotating assembly while your at it. Also make sure you remember to factor in the cost of the machine work that will have to be done.

If you were to put together a 347 or 331 with a descent H/C/I combo, that would put you well into the 12's.

blkcobra50 · Sep 7, 2006

88Stang331 said:
I would have to agree with Cobra on this one and say that if your already going to be tearing into your engine, and putting some nice expensive pieces on it, you might as well replace the rotating assembly while your at it. Also make sure you remember to factor in the cost of the machine work that will have to be done.

If you were to put together a 347 or 331 with a descent H/C/I combo, that would put you well into the 12's.

agreed

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