HELP JUST BUILT CAR AND HAVE CODES

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HEY GUYS!! IM NEW TO THIS, NEVER BEEN IN A FORUM!! I JUST BUILT MY CAR AND IM HAVING PROBLEMS!! THE CAR DOES NOT RUN LIKE IT SHOULD!! ITS LACKING POWER!! CHECK ENGINE LIGHT COMES ON AND I HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT CODES.. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHERE TO START WITH THESE CODES?? I DO AUTOBODY WORK AND IM JUST LEARNING HOW TO TROUBLE SHOOT AND BUILD ENGINES.. THE FIRST PROBLEM I TACKLED WAS, MY LOWER INTAKE WAS NOT SEALED RIGHT (USED THE CRAPPY CORK SMALL GASKETS) SO I FIXED THAT AND THE CAR RAN ALLOT BETTER, BUT IT STILL RUNS LIKE CRAP... SO I HOOKED IT UP TO A SCANNER AND GOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF CODES... TO START I WANTED TO FIX THE (THERMACTOR AIR SYSTEM CODES)
my smog pump was deleted during the build of the car...i read all of jrichker's instructions on installing the resistors and fully understand everything except Where to put the resistors into?? he said to plug them into the TAD or TAD connector sockets ??? But where exactly are they?? what do they look like?? Can someone maybe send me a pic and explain exactly where they are?? I just built my car and have a whole bunch of error codes and i have to start by getting rid of the error codes for the smog pump (thermactor air system) also would there be an error code for my egr not getting enough air flow because the smog pump is gone?? i know i can delete the egr valve also but dont you have to plug something into the EGR plug to fool the computer??
Also here are the other codes that are coming up,
29 open vehical speed sensor circut
33 insufficent egr flow
66 air flow (maf/vaf) signal low-circut ground
96 fuel pump circut open battery to eca
Please can someone let me know where to start and what to do to fix these codes...
any of your help will be greatly appreciated!!!
 
Hi there,
heres what i can tell you and i will not attempt to answer queations i dont know anything about.

29 thats the VSS, Vehicle Speed Sensor, just changed my own, its on the drivers side of the gear box that the Speedometer cable hooks up to, along with a plug thats for the Sensor. I was told to clean my contacts with electrical contact cleaner, just put in a new one and that should resolve that problem.

33 EGR, just changed my own as well, it has a rubber membrain in it and if its torn then air leaks through the hole and can cause this code to be thrown. Just change it one time and or check around the pintle on the EGR and clean, it can sometime be dirty, and the pintle might not seat right.

as for (THERMACTOR AIR SYSTEM CODES)
my smog pump was deleted during the build of the car...i read all of jrichker's instructions on installing the resistors and fully understand everything except Where to put the resistors into?? he said to plug them into the TAD or TAD connector sockets ??? But where exactly are they?? what do they look like?? Can someone maybe send me a pic and explain exactly where they are??
I have the same problem but does not seem to affect my cars diving ability, I would like to learn more of this as well.

Hope i have helped in some way. Matt
 
Code 29 - Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) is an electronic sender mounted on the speedo pickup gear on the trans. It works the cruse control for both 5 speed and auto trans cars. The VSS is used to tell the computer to speed up the idle as you slow to a stop. This helps keep the engine from stalling when you slow down for a stop sign or stop light.
Check to see if the electrical connector is plugged into it. Clean the connector & contacts with non flammable brake parts cleaner prior to replacing the sensor, as that may fix the problem. The sensor cost is under $30 and it is easy to replace.

Code 33 - Insufficient EGR flow detected.
Look for vacuum leaks, cracked vacuum lines, failed EGR vacuum regulator. Check to see if you have 10” of vacuum at the EGR vacuum connection coming from the intake manifold. Look for electrical signal at the vacuum regulator solenoid valves located on the rear of the passenger side wheel well. Using a test light across the electrical connector, it should flicker as the electrical signal flickers. Remember that the computer does not source any power, but provides the ground necessary to complete the circuit. That means one side of the circuit will always be hot, and the other side will go to ground or below 1 volt as the computer switches on that circuit.
Check for resistance between the brown/lt green wire on the EGR sensor and pin 27 on the computer: you should have less than 1.5 ohm.

See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host)

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif


EGR test procedure courtesy of cjones

to check the EGR valve:
bring the engine to normal temp.

connect a vacuum pump to the EGR Valve or see the EGR test jig drawing below. Connnect the test jig or to directly to manifold vacuum.

Do not connect the EGR test jig to the EVR (Electronic Vacuum Regulator).


apply 5in vacuum to the valve. Using the test jig, use your finger to vary the vacuum

if engine stumbled or died then EGR Valve and passage(there is a passageway through the heads and intake) are good.

if engine did NOT stumble or die then either the EGR Valve is bad and/or the passage is blocked.

if engine stumbled, connect EGR test jig to the hose coming off of the EGR Valve.
Use your finger to cap the open port on the vacuum tee.
snap throttle to 2500 RPM (remember snap the throttle don't hold it there).
did the vacuum gauge show about 2-5 in vacuum?
if not the EVR has failed

EGR test jig
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The operation of the EGR vacuum regulator can be checked by using a test light applied across the wiring connector. Jumper the computer into self test mode and turn the key on but do not start the engine. You will hear all the actuators (including the EVR vacuum regulator) cycle. Watch for the light to flicker: that means the computer has signaled the EGR vacuum regulator successfully.


Code 66 MAF below minimum test voltage.
Insufficient or no voltage from MAF. Dirty MAF element, bad MAF, bad MAF wiring, missing power to MAF. Check for missing +12 volts on this circuit. Check the two links for a wiring diagram to help you find the red wire for computer power relay switched +12 volts. Check for 12 volts between the red and black wires on the MAF heater (usually pins A & B). while the connector is plugged into the MAF. This may require the use of a couple of safety pins to probe the MAF connector from the back side of it.

There are three parts in a MAF: the heater, the sensor element and the amplifier. The heater heats the MAF sensor element causing the resistance to increase. The amplifier buffers the MAF output signal and has a resistor that is laser trimmed to provide an output range compatible with the computer's load tables.

If you have a K&N flat panel filter or other filter that requires oiling, excess oil may coat the MAF sensor element and cause problems.

The MAF element is secured by 2 screws & has 1 wiring connector. To clean the element, remove it from the MAF housing and spray it down with electronic parts cleaner or non-inflammable brake parts cleaner (same stuff in a bigger can and cheaper too).

Changes in RPM causes the airflow to increase or decease, changing the voltage output.. The increase of air across the MAF sensor element causes it to cool, allowing more voltage to pass and telling the computer to increase the fuel flow. A decrease in airflow causes the MAF sensor element to get warmer, decreasing the voltage and reducing the fuel flow. Measure the MAF output at pins C & D on the MAF connector (dark blue/orange and tan/light blue) or at pins 50 & 9 on the computer. Be sure to measure the sensor output by measuring across the pins and not between the pins and ground.

At idle = approximately .6 volt
20 MPH = approximately 1.10 volt
40 MPH = approximately 1.70 volt
60 MPH = approximately 2.10 volt

Check the resistance of the MAF signal wiring. Pin D on the MAF and pin 50 on the computer (dark blue/orange wire) should be less than 2 ohms. Pin C on the MAF and pin 9 on the computer (tan/light blue wire) should be less than 2 ohms.

There should be a minimum of 10K ohms between either pin C or D on the MAF wiring connector and ground. Make your measurement with the MAF disconnected from the wiring harness.


See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-95 wiring Mustang FAQ - Engine Information

Ignition switch wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

Fuel pump, alternator, ignition & A/C wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

Computer,. actuator & sensor wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91_5.0_EEC_Wiring_Diagram.gif

Fuse panel layout
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/MustangFuseBox.gif

Vacuum routing
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/mustangFoxFordVacuumDiagram.jpg


Code 96 causes & tests 91-93 models. – KOEO- Fuel pump monitor circuit shows no power - Fuel pump relay or battery power feed was open - Power / Fuel Pump Circuits. The fuel pump circuit lost power at one time or another.

Look for a failing fuel pump relay, bad connections or broken wiring. The fuel pump relay is located under the Mass Air Meter on Fox bodied stangs built after 91. On earlier model cars is under the passenger seat. On Mass Air Conversions, the signal lead that tells the computer that the fuel pump has power may not have been wired correctly. See Mustang Mass Air Conversion | StangNet

Diagram of the fuel pump wiring for 91-93 cars.
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Look for power at the fuel pump - the fuel pump has a connector at the rear of the car with a pink/black wire and a black wire that goes to the fuel pump. The pink/black wire should be hot when the test connector is jumpered to the test position. To trick the fuel pump into running, find the ECC test connector and jump the connector in the lower RH corner to ground. No voltage when jumpered, check the fuel pump relay and fuse links.
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Power feed: Look for 12 volts at the pink/black wire (power source for fuel pump relay). No voltage or low voltage, bad fuse link, bad wiring, or connections. Remember that on 92 or later models the fuel pump relay is located under the Mass Air meter. Watch out for the WOT A/C control relay on these cars, as it is located in the same place and can easily be mistaken for the fuel pump relay.

Relay: Turn on the key and jumper the ECC test connector as previously described. Look for 12 volts at the dark green\yellow wire (relay controlled power for the fuel pump). No voltage there means that the relay has failed, or there is a broken wire in the relay control circuit.

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91-93 Models:
Using the diagram, check the dark green/yellow wire from the fuel pump relay: you should see 12 volts or so. If not the relay has failed or is intermittent. Check the inertia switch: on a hatch it is on the drivers side by the taillight. Look for a black rubber plug that pops out: if you don't find it, then loosen up the plastic trim. Check for voltage on both sides of the switch. If there is voltage on both sides, then check the Pink/black wire on the fuel pump relay: it is the power feed to the fuel pump. Good voltage there, then the fuel pump is the likely culprit since it is getting power. No voltage there, check the Pink/black wire, it is the power feed to the fuel pump relay & has a fuse link in it. Good voltage there & at the dark green/yellow wire, swap the relay.
 
THANKS GUYS!! BUT I STILL HAVE A ???

HEY JRICHKER!! THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR INFORMATION!! BUT I STILL NEED SOME HELP ON A FEW THINGS

1) FOR MY THERMACTOR AIR SYSTEM CODES (DUE TO SMOG PUMP DELETED) I AM SHOWING CODES FOR THE THERMACTOR.. I READ YOUR THREAD ON HOW TO MAKE THE RESISTORS AND PLUG THEM INTO TAD or TAD connector sockets ??? But where exactly are they?? what do they look like?? Can YOU maybe send me a pic and explain exactly where they are??

2) MY CAR RUNS LIKE CRAP, WELL IT IDLES FINE BUT IT DOSENT HAVE THE PUNCH OR POWER IT SHOULD HAVE, COULD ONE OF THE CODES I ASKED YOU TO HELP ME WITH BE THE PROBLEM? LIKE THE MASS AIR SENSOR? OR THE SPEED SENSOR?? OR THE INSUFFICIENT EGR FLOW?? IVE HERD PEOPLE SAY THAT THE COMPUTER CAN GO INTO (LIMP MODE?) HOW CAN I CHECK IF I AM IN LIMP MODE? AND HOW CAN I FIX IT? ALSO WHAT IF I DELETED THE EGR ALL TOGETHER, DONT THEY SELL SOMETHING THAT PLUGS INTO THE PLUG INPLACE OF THE EGR TO FOOL THE COMPUTER INTO THINKING THAT THERE IS AN EGR??

3) NOW ON CODE 96 FUEL PUMP CIRCUT OPEN BATTERY TO ECA-- YOU SAID THAT MY RELAY COULD BE BAD OR BROKEN WIRE etc... BUT IF MY RELAY WAS BAD OR THERE WAS A BROKEN WIRE WOULDNT MY CAR NOT RUN BECAUSE THE FUEL PUMP WASNT GOING ON?? WELL MY CAR STARTS AND RUNS BUT THAT CODE 96 STILL COMES ON??

THANKS ALLOT FOR THE TIME YOU"VE SPENT IN HELPING ME!!! AND ANY MORE INFORMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!