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[2000xp8]

I have a stock block. It doesn't see that rpm all the time, thats what it will be shifted at when running at the track. I agree, I wouldn't want to shift that high all the time. I have the light weight parts to help with rpm though.

If you go to www.andersonfordmotorsport.com you'll see plenty of n/a stock block 302-347" 7000rpm low 11 and high 10 second cars.

I see the list, but the stats that i see don't say what rpm they are making the power at, nor does it tell what blocks everyone used.
Big Daddy, has had tons of cars in the 11's with bone stock shortblocks, that's what the combo i run is modelled after.

I'm well aware you can get a mustang in the 11's and 10's NA. That's not my issue, i just don't think running a stock block to 7 grand is reliable. And you seem to understand that, and you sound like a more responsible driver than i am, i'd have that thing blown apart by the end of the first week, but i'm tough on cars.

 

[ms93gt]

Calling what i say a lie? Tell me you think i'm wrong, but don't accuse someone of lying. Funny you come here with some idea of building a 347 for under $1000, then accuse someone that's been here and around mustangs for 13 years a liar.

And What 306's? I don't see any?

And keep in mind, some guys that don't drive their cars daily, or are race cars, fill their water jackets on the blocks which adds a major amount of strength but it's not functional on a normal street car. So don't go quoting some guys time that runs a specific class, and only have to make 1 pass every 2 hours, then put the car on a trailer.

I have not seen a single guy on stangnet that runs low 11's on a 306 with a stock bock spinning to 7 grand.

In fact i've seen very few in the 11's NA, period.

Anything can be done and there is exceptions to everything, but that doesn't mean it will work for everyone. Speculating on ET based on other peoples setups is rarely reliable.

No need to get your panties in a bunch. Look at this thread http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=567165&highlight=combos

 

[2000xp8]

I read that entire post, i don't see anyone banging gears at 7 grand, 1/2 the cars are blower cars, the other half are race cars, and most have gears that are unuseable on the street.
4.30's and 4.56's don't work real well for a street car, and with that type of gears, you'd be 6000-7000 danger zone everytime you drive the car.
So if you are building a race car, go with all that info, but if you are building a NA aspirated street car, most info there is irrelevant.

I know what can be done, i see fast NA cars all the time, It's just not as simple, as buying an engine kit for $1000 and slapping it in some car.

 

[ms93gt]

Ok well if you don't believe a fully street 347 can hit 10's than what do u think grn's combo is gonna run as thats basically my exact combo?

 

[ms93gt]

Plus I only plan on revving my car to about 6500, 7 at most.

 

[2000xp8]

Ok well if you don't believe a fully street 347 can hit 10's than what do u think grn's combo is gonna run as thats basically my exact combo?

I never said it can't happen, in fact if you reread my posts, i said i know it can be done. The guys name in my sig owns a well known shop in jackson, and i see him everyday, i know what it takes to get a car in the 10's NA.
I see many cars there that have done it. The ones with 4 bolt blocks do it much easier.
With box stock wedges on grn's car, i find it unliekly he'll hit the 10's NA, but hey, anything can happen.

Besides you can't use Greens car as your model, because i'm sure he didn't go into this project, with a "built a 10second 347 for under a grand" attitude. He has a carefully planned combo.

 

[ms93gt]

I never said it can't happen, in fact if you reread my posts, i said i know it can be done. The guys name in my sig owns a well known shop in jackson, and i see him everyday, i know what it takes to get a car in the 10's NA.
I see many cars there that have done it. The ones with 4 bolt blocks do it much easier.
With box stock wedges on grn's car, i find it unliekly he'll hit the 10's NA, but hey, anything can happen.

Besides you can't use Greens car as your model, because i'm sure he didn't go into this project, with a "built a 10second 347 for under a grand" attitude. He has a carefully planned combo.

LOL well if you read my post then you would see I didn't say anything about building a 10 sec car for under a grand. So before you put words into my mouth reread the post. My question was a 347 stroker kit for under a grand. Big difference by saying a "kit" then a whole engine. Don't post in my thread if your gonna argue with me and give me an attitude about my building. I don't care about you and "big daddy" as I called big daddy already and he said they ship out the motor to get work done, so therefore I don't see "big daddy" building anything. I'm sure he's a great guy and I know he's built plenty of fast, respectable cars, but he's not building mine so don't worry about my car, it'll hit 10's.

 

[5spd GT]

A 306 has different sidewall pressure as well due to the harsher ratio the 347 has over the 306. A bit easier/reliable to rev that high.

There is a big difference between a 10 second true street car and a 10 second street/strip car. Sure it can be done but you have to be a bit more careful and selective with parts/money and research.

 

[Grn92LX]

I never said it can't happen, in fact if you reread my posts, i said i know it can be done. The guys name in my sig owns a well known shop in jackson, and i see him everyday, i know what it takes to get a car in the 10's NA.
I see many cars there that have done it. The ones with 4 bolt blocks do it much easier.
With box stock wedges on grn's car, i find it unliekly he'll hit the 10's NA, but hey, anything can happen.

Besides you can't use Greens car as your model, because i'm sure he didn't go into this project, with a "built a 10second 347 for under a grand" attitude. He has a carefully planned combo.

I went into the project knowing it was 1) gonna be expensive and 2) gonna be a lot of work. I know my car will never see 10 second et's, but I think it can have the potential for at least deep deep 11's mph-wise which is all I care about. I just want a fast street car I can drive and race. Like i've been saying, if he has the money, definatly have the heads ported right. With a victor intake and a GOOD custom cam and proper supporting parts, thats 10.50 power.

My goal when talking to Ed (FTI) was a car capable of going low 11's/high 10's. He told me "you've allowed me to go wild". Oddly enough, the cam drives fine and drives very similar as the small 302 FTI cam I had. There was a guy on anderson's customer car section with a n/a 331 with unported TW heads running 11.3 @ 119.50 mph with a similar combo as me, but carb'd. About 120mph is whats needed for a 10.9.

 

[2000xp8]

If I use my twisted wedge heads with r series or holley intake with custom cam could I hit 10's?

I guess this quote is not something you wrote?

Sounds like a 10 second goal to me.

Big daddy chooses the parts, and has the same guy that works on his race car blocks, machine and work the block, then he assembles the parts.

And Green, i have no doubt your car will be capable of around 11.50's.