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Help me choose an intake!

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BlackVert

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Strut Tower Brace. i have a steeda STB sitting in my basement, but i'm not sure i'll need it for my motor or if a stock one will fit, so i need to hold on to it until my engine in installed.
 

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MustangGT95 said:
Anybody know if the stock STB will clear a track heat intake? If it doesn't I don't really care but I'd like to keep the STB if possible.

I think I will be placing an order for a black track heat intake, 4.10 gears and kit, and a set of BBK shorty headers to go with my bbk H, and mufflers.

I have a feeling the gears will give me the biggest SOTP difference but I'm hoping the car breaths alittle better uptop with the intake and TB.

BTW...think it will be time for 24lb injects yet?
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If you're gonna buy headers, you might as well buy longtubes. They all suck to install anyway. The gain's aren't a whole heck of a lot of over shorties but they are better. They sound better too.

If you step up to 24s you'll have to re-tune the car. I don't think you need them yet with that combo. When you slap a set of heads on, I'd make the jump right from 19s to 30s with a MAF cal'd for 30s.

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My dyno came out to 334 hp at 6100 rpm, and 342 tq at 5000 rpm. My tuner said there is more in it with the rpm2 or systemax.
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and that is with a 70mm t/b and intake combo on a 306. that is the intake velocity i was talking about doing its magic.
 

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BlackVert said:
and that is with a 70mm t/b and intake combo on a 306. that is the intake velocity i was talking about doing its magic.
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Where in this thread does WHITE94COBRA even post? Did you pull a quote off a random thread and apply it to this one? What intake/tb combo are you talking about?

Adam
 

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BlackVert

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Black95GTS said:
Where in this thread does WHITE94COBRA even post? Did you pull a quote off a random thread and apply it to this one? What intake/tb combo are you talking about?

Adam
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it's in another current thread talking about performer vs. performer rpm intakes

it seemed like it was relevant to this thread

clicking on the little arrow thing next to the quote takes you to the post. his combo is in his sig.

i should have clarified it a little more, my bad
 

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BlackVert said:
and that is with a 70mm t/b and intake combo on a 306. that is the intake velocity i was talking about doing its magic.
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You just shot yourself in the foot by quoting that tuner. He agrees with me. The tuner said he'd make more power with intakes that have smaller runners, larger diameters, and LESS VELOCITY.

Perhaps if he had an engine that mad peak HP at 3500, the performer would be better. But he's making peak horsepower at 6K + RPMS, and if you seriously believe that a long runner, "high velocity" intake will make more power then a short runner "low velocity" intake at higher RPMs then I can't help you anymore.

There are plenty of engines that use long runners and low rpms to make great power down low. I have one of them in my F150.

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white95cobra said:
My dyno came out to 334 hp at 6100 rpm, and 342 tq at 5000 rpm. My tuner said there is more in it with the rpm2 or systemax.
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i just looked at his sig. he has a very similar combo(rpm, AFR 165, FTI) to me but with a 306. Thats a lot of power
 

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nascar motors are obviously in a different league than ours. thay all so well matched that matching the pressure waves to the valve events could actually make a difference in a 500 mile race.

our engines are obviously not anywhere close to that level, so it is true that things like intake velocity are not nearly as important as other things.

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i just looked at his sig. he has a very similar combo(rpm, AFR 165, FTI) to me but with a 306. Thats a lot of power
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what do you suppose his secret is?
 

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BlackVert said:
what do you suppose his secret is?
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His secret is that while WhiteDevil has a 347 and WHITE94COBRA has a 306, WhiteDevil is still using parts more suitable for a 306 on a 347.

"Use 302 parts, get 302 power"

I'm willing to bet if WhiteDevil threw a set of Vic Jrs, a Vic 5.0, supporting mods and a new tune he'd be over 400rwhp.

Adam
 
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I was just going to get shorties because I just recently got a BBK offroad H for shorties. I really don't feel like getting a new H when mine is a couple months old.
 
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