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tomustang

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TNstanggurl, you seriously need to go get a dyno test to actually see if there is any gains. your car should pull alot harder at higher rpms then it use to. but first send it to a professional.
 

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It may be all in your head too though........Its not like your driving a top fuel funny car. My Cobra is probably putting down close to 400hp at the wheels and feels like my GT did bone stock to me now. You get used to the power, esspecially when you are driving.
 

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you should feel a little bit more torque overall, but then it should pull harder in the upper rpm's. only way to be sure is to take that timing cover off and check it.
 
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Well today i couldnt help but floor it all the way in first gear.I really noticed a difference!It pulls hard in first,but when i shift to second its like its slow again.After that i babied it because it stalled on me on the bypass.The pass side has been makin a tickin noise from the cam and rockers.We checked it out and couldnt see anything visibly wrong.Should we take the cam out and put it back in to see if that fixes anything?
 

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where did you get your PI heads from?
 
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I bought them from a guy on here.They came off of his 02 mustang.It really sucks because i have to work 3 jobs and i have to drive it because its my only car and my boyfreind works all the time so he cant take me to work.I hope i havent done anymore damage to the motor.Last noght wes took the valve covers off to see what was clickin and he thinks it is a rocker arm.I have another huge problem now.This morning it took it 10 minutes to finaly start up and then when it finally did it was leakin oil and after i got $10 gas it all leaked out.I think i am just gonna take it to a shop or something this weekend.
 

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TNstanggurl said:
I bought them from a guy on here.They came off of his 02 mustang.It really sucks because i have to work 3 jobs and i have to drive it because its my only car and my boyfreind works all the time so he cant take me to work.I hope i havent done anymore damage to the motor.Last noght wes took the valve covers off to see what was clickin and he thinks it is a rocker arm.I have another huge problem now.This morning it took it 10 minutes to finaly start up and then when it finally did it was leakin oil and after i got $10 gas it all leaked out.I think i am just gonna take it to a shop or something this weekend.
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your gas leaked out? where at?

my g/f's honda just sprung a leak on her oil pan yesterday.

looks like u have too many problems on ur hand now and too little time. take it to a shop.
 
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We found out that the reason why my gas was leakinig out was because yesterday whenever my b/f took the valve covers off he didnt put the fuel rails on good enough and they were leaking.But it is ok for no except for everytime i turn the car off smoke poors out from under the hood from where the gas is burnin off.I have today and all of this weekend to work on my car so my boyfreind is just gonna take the timing cover off and adjust the timing and see what the **** is ticking on the cams.He also has to put some exhaust tape on the right side muffler pipe because it has an awful sounding exhaust leak.I cant wait for my car to be fixed!!!Thank you rysred for all of your help and concern I will let you guys know how things are going
 
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Well,we found out 3 main problems the car was having.1. My boyfreind put one of the timing adjusters on backwards and it caused 1 of the timing chain links to break completly off and another to break in half.So we replaced both of the timing chains and that made a little difference in how the car ran.2.the temp sensor that runs to the computor wasnt plugged up so we plugged it in.3.Some of the spark plugs were gapped at like 20!! They came on the pi heads that we bought.NOW.....its still making that ticking noise that sounds like it is coming from the drivers side cam.It gets louder when let the rpms wind out.It sounds like something is caght in a fan.The chek engine light came on last night so we took it to autozone and it pulled a cylinder 1 missfire code.We are gonna check the spark plug to see if that could be the problem.The check engine light keeps flashing on and off in a pattern.And the oil pressure guage somtimes goes back and forth.Could anything else possibly go wrong
 
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omg...

so both the timing chains slipped or broke? you probably bent a valve. that'll explain the clicking and misfire.

make sure the oil pressure sending wire is connected onto the oil pump. it's a single wire, make sure it's not loose. check ur oil obviously.

if it's flashing then that means more than a simple emissions problem (like a misfire)

maybe you're b/f should read up more and do a better quality job when working on ur car. doesnt sound too bright to me if you're having all these problems over stupid things.
 

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#1 cyl is passenger side front. you have the ticking from the drivers side. check ur plugs and plug wires on all cylinders. but it does sound like u have some bent valves if both ur damn chains came off while driving and you're hearing that sound.

do u have stock pi cams? if not, do the cams require new valve springs?
 
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It was his first time ever doing anything like this to a car,so this is what i expected!Anyways,the timing chains didnt slip off.Only the drivers side chain had two broken links the pass side chain was just a little scratched up.As I mentioned before i have comp 270's not pi cams ,and i have aftermarket springs on the car.It probably would run like total ass if we had one much less 2 or more bent valves.I dont know
 

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how could the links be broken and not cause the chain to snap? there's a lot of instantaneous torque on those chains...

i did my headswap all myself and was my first time, never had a problem. just gotta read the book right and research any grey areas
 
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He made a few simple mistakes because he got frustrated.It happens.How the hell the timing chain didnt come off we will never know.We are just very lucky that it didnt bend a rod or something.If a lifter was sticking would it make a continuous tickin noise?
 

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even if the chain slipped you could have piston/valve contact. i think a stuck lifter could cause a valve to get stuck. u need to take it down again and maybe turn the crank by hand to observe whats going on in that driver side bank.

though i dont have experience with noises like that, maybe someone else who had a problem like that would chime in.
 

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RysRed96GT said:
how could the links be broken and not cause the chain to snap? there's a lot of instantaneous torque on those chains...

i did my headswap all myself and was my first time, never had a problem. just gotta read the book right and research any grey areas
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Yup, me too!!!!! Wow!! If I #**#*# my girlfriends car like that I'd get nutered
I'm thinking you should maybe take it in to a good repair shop before you have to find yourself a new motor[$500 bucks now is cheaper than $2000 later!!!]. If those timing chains still are not on right, or there are more cracked links, if that chain balls up at high rpms you could have some very serious issues!!!! Being it's his first time and all, I'd cut him a bit of slack, but putting timing chain adjusters on backwards isn't a small little misstake,that ontop of all the other stuff he screwed up, I'd keep him the heck away from my car., especially now that you have to pull those heads off again.Please don't think I'm being rude, I'm not, I'm just being honest.You don't want to be taking the bus to work while your car is sitting in pieces in the back yard
 
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LOL .He replaced both chains and put the adjuster back on right.So that is fixed!!!!His uncle has a shop right around the block so we are gonna see if he can take a look at it today to see what all is wrong with it.We are just worried about what the hell is making the tickin noise now!?!?
 
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It doesnt sound like a bent valve to me. This is his older brother. I bent a valve in my Nova and this car sounds nothing like that. Just like something is just a little off. And lay off him, he's 16 and this is his 1st time being in control and doing everything without any help. All i did was put antifreeze in it. I'm proud of him. I'm sure he'll figure it out.
 

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good job for being only 16 though. but though the haynes manual states the exact directions
 
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