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155dB5.0

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Ok so im not quit sure how to fix this one yet. Car is hesitating in the lower rpm's like 0-3k. It also is bucking at low speeds and dosent even feel as strong up top as it used to. Before i could pop the clutch at 2-3k and spin em through first and most of 2nd now its just sad. Before the basics come up, this is what i have done for my tune up this year
New:
Plugs gapped to .60 for screaming daemon
cap and router
fuel filter
pvc
FP set at about 39-40 with vacume off
14 degrees timing
Plug wires were not changed cause the are Live wires and i think they are suposed to last a while.


I have read it could be the PIP sensor or the O2's, Fuel pump, just looking for some more ideas and input.

Thanks
 

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good luck with this i have something that is kinda simular. mine lacks power from idle to 2000 rpm. i have given up i figure that it is the cam as mine is rated for 2200-6500.
 

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I know its not the cam for me cause it was not like this when I frist swaped everything. Used to be a monster, now its a mouse. I could make the clutch slip easly
 

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Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 26-July-2011. Added need to make sure the clutch is pressed when dumping codes.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Post the codes you get and I will post 86-93 model 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes. I do not have a complete listing for 94-95 model 5.0 Mustangs at this time.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. On a manual transmission car, be sure to press the clutch to the floor.
Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, and clutch (if present) is pressed to the floor, and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx– It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 

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Recheck all of the spark plug wires and connections. I had similar issue and if I recall correctly one of my wires was bad.
 

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Got no codes stored just the 11 all good one. Going to grab some new o2's tomorrow and will try to pull codes again see if I got any new ones this past weekend.
 

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does your tach jump right before it bucks, hows your idle my guess is the pip sensor or called hall effects switch
 

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I dont notice it jump, idle is preaty good, little surge when hot but think I need to reset the base idle higher
 

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See the "Surging Idle Checklist for help with all your idle/stall problems before you make any idle adjustments.

The quick and easy way to dump the codes is in there too, and all you need to do it is a paper clip! The first two posts contain all the fixes & updates. At last count there were 24 possible causes and fixes for surging idle/stall problems. I continue to update it as more people post fixes or ask questions.
 

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Well got new o2s to try this weekend and going to clean the act and ect so I hope this solves it, if not I think I will get a new pip sensor or distributor.
 

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New o2's are in, it does seem to be running better. The old ones were black as hell and im sure the car is running rich but im not sure why..... Next im going to replace the ACT and ECT for good measure and a new distributor this winter. Still some surge when hot but nothing to annoying
 

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Ok new ect and act seems to be running good. One thing I did notice was the act was covered in oil....I assume this is not normal?
 
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