I have a 91 Gt that I'm shaping up, I recently installed new one piece headlights and have had this problem. First off, the Car has been sitting for a couple years so I'm not sure if the problem existed prior to this change. Ive replaced the bulbs (I saw someone mention the bulbs that came with it were sketchy), Headlamp Switch, multifunction switch and both relays for high beams. All other lights work as intended, however when I use the flash to pass or high beams I have no headlights at all. Still have driving lights, etc as normal just lose High Beams. The new Headlamps changed the Bulbs from 9004 to 9007 but came with an adapter to adapt the wiring changes between the two. As best as I can tell from research they appear correct and this is the only wiring changes related to the Headlights. Any thoughts on where else to look for the issue?
High Beam Issue Any Help Appreciated
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The fog light wiring and the headlight wiring share many of the same switches and wires.
SEE Mustang GT Fog Light Fix to fix the foglight problem. The stock wiring isn't up to the job and is overheating. The headlight switch & turn/multifunction switch are affected by Ford's wiring problem. Sometimes it overheats so badly that the plastic shells of the wiring connectors start to melt. This will show you how to add a relay to the fog lights to relieve the overload on the headlight wiring.
Be careful not to use bulbs rated at more than 55 watt each with the stock fog light wiring. Using oversize bulbs can result in overheating the wiring harness and electrical fires. Definitely do the fog light fix first.
I did mine differently, but I had to build my own wiring harness for the fog lights. This is more trouble than it is worth for most folks. I left all the wiring on the stock light switches in place and used the fog light wiring to power the relay coil. The other side of the relay coil is connected to ground. I have an inline fuse that picks up power from the battery side of the starter solenoid. It is connected to the relay contact. The other relay contact is connected to the new wiring harness I made for the fog lights.
The advantage of making your own foglight wiring harness is that you can run 100 watt fog light bulbs. The stock wiring harness will not use 100 watt bulbs without overloading and causing a fire.
Unless you are good at electrical wiring, have the skills and tools (crimp tool, soldering gun, heat gun for the heat shrink tubing, etc.) I recommend that you stick with the Corral method.
Technical explanation of why the wiring and switches overheat.
You asked for it...
I= Current
E= Voltage
R= Resistance
W= Watts
Two 55 watt fog lamps =110 watts. Find the current in the circuit
I= W/E
110 watts/14 volts = 7.85 amps for fog lights alone.
Since the lighting circuit supplies headlights, taillights, and parking lights, etc.
56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3156 corner light 28 watts each
90 watts 2 each GE Part # 9004 headlight 45/65 watts each (low beam)
63 watts 2 each GE Part # L194 parking light 31.5 watts each
56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3157 tail light 28 watts each
265 watts Total
Total other exterior lighting current
I=W/E
265 watts/14 volts = 18.92 amps
18.92 amps other exterior lighting current
+ 7.85 amps fog light current
26.77 amps with all exterior lights and fog lights on.
The 12 gauge power feed wire to the exterior lighting switch is rated at 20 amps
26.77
- 20.00
6.77 amps excess current
7.85 amps used by fog lights
-6.77 amps excess current
1.08 amps to run the fog lights left if you stay within the 20 amp limit of the wire.
With 1.08 amp of current, the fog lights probably won’t produce any useable light.
Added resistance required to reduce fog light current to permissible 20 amp limit
R=E/I
14 volts/6.77 amps = 2.06 ohms
Resistor wattage
W=EI
14 volts x 6.77 amps = 94.78 watts
You would need a 2 ohm, 100 watt resistor.
Light bulb ratings from http://www.roadparts.com/catalog/section30.pdf
Radio shack resistor catalog - no matches , and no combinations that could be used to make a 100 watt, 2 Ohm resistor.
See RadioShack.com
Ohm’s law – in case you have any questions about my formulas - Ohm's Law Calculators
SEE Mustang GT Fog Light Fix to fix the foglight problem. The stock wiring isn't up to the job and is overheating. The headlight switch & turn/multifunction switch are affected by Ford's wiring problem. Sometimes it overheats so badly that the plastic shells of the wiring connectors start to melt. This will show you how to add a relay to the fog lights to relieve the overload on the headlight wiring.
Be careful not to use bulbs rated at more than 55 watt each with the stock fog light wiring. Using oversize bulbs can result in overheating the wiring harness and electrical fires. Definitely do the fog light fix first.
I did mine differently, but I had to build my own wiring harness for the fog lights. This is more trouble than it is worth for most folks. I left all the wiring on the stock light switches in place and used the fog light wiring to power the relay coil. The other side of the relay coil is connected to ground. I have an inline fuse that picks up power from the battery side of the starter solenoid. It is connected to the relay contact. The other relay contact is connected to the new wiring harness I made for the fog lights.
The advantage of making your own foglight wiring harness is that you can run 100 watt fog light bulbs. The stock wiring harness will not use 100 watt bulbs without overloading and causing a fire.
Unless you are good at electrical wiring, have the skills and tools (crimp tool, soldering gun, heat gun for the heat shrink tubing, etc.) I recommend that you stick with the Corral method.
Technical explanation of why the wiring and switches overheat.
You asked for it...
I= Current
E= Voltage
R= Resistance
W= Watts
Two 55 watt fog lamps =110 watts. Find the current in the circuit
I= W/E
110 watts/14 volts = 7.85 amps for fog lights alone.
Since the lighting circuit supplies headlights, taillights, and parking lights, etc.
56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3156 corner light 28 watts each
90 watts 2 each GE Part # 9004 headlight 45/65 watts each (low beam)
63 watts 2 each GE Part # L194 parking light 31.5 watts each
56 watts 2 each GE Part # L3157 tail light 28 watts each
265 watts Total
Total other exterior lighting current
I=W/E
265 watts/14 volts = 18.92 amps
18.92 amps other exterior lighting current
+ 7.85 amps fog light current
26.77 amps with all exterior lights and fog lights on.
The 12 gauge power feed wire to the exterior lighting switch is rated at 20 amps
26.77
- 20.00
6.77 amps excess current
7.85 amps used by fog lights
-6.77 amps excess current
1.08 amps to run the fog lights left if you stay within the 20 amp limit of the wire.
With 1.08 amp of current, the fog lights probably won’t produce any useable light.
Added resistance required to reduce fog light current to permissible 20 amp limit
R=E/I
14 volts/6.77 amps = 2.06 ohms
Resistor wattage
W=EI
14 volts x 6.77 amps = 94.78 watts
You would need a 2 ohm, 100 watt resistor.
Light bulb ratings from http://www.roadparts.com/catalog/section30.pdf
Radio shack resistor catalog - no matches , and no combinations that could be used to make a 100 watt, 2 Ohm resistor.
See RadioShack.com
Ohm’s law – in case you have any questions about my formulas - Ohm's Law Calculators
mikestang63
SN Certified Technician
Yep. Follow Jrichkers advice.. The only thing I will add is pop out the headlight/foglight switch and I bet it's burnt or the wiring is FUBAR... When you turn on the lights or highbeams.. put your palm on top of the dash above the headlight switch and feel it gets warm..
Just to Clarify, Ive owned this car since 92, and the TSB for the Foglights was done back then. I rarely, if ever, use the foglights and I know the Highbeams worked the last time I actually used the car (probably 2 years ago or so). This Wiring fix will fix my highbeam issue?
Does the flash to pass work?
Is the wiring for the multifunction switch in good condition? No sign of overheated wiring, no loose pins in the plastic wiring harness connector, the multifunction switch wiring contacts are not discolored?
Have you checked both high beam bulbs? Are the grounds for the headlights still in place - they attach to the radiator support brace that runs in front of the radiator.
Is the wiring for the multifunction switch in good condition? No sign of overheated wiring, no loose pins in the plastic wiring harness connector, the multifunction switch wiring contacts are not discolored?
Have you checked both high beam bulbs? Are the grounds for the headlights still in place - they attach to the radiator support brace that runs in front of the radiator.
Both bulbs just replaced, checked all wiring for signs of burns, etc when I replaced the switches and no obvious damage. Both grounds are still there, the only thing I didn't check was loose pins on the MF Switch Connectors which I had just read about in another thread after posting this.
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