Hooker Headers.. Yah or Nay

[poneypower89]

Alright, here is the deal. My little bro is pulling his 5.0 drivetrain out of his project car and junking the body. He is selling the engine, but I have a chance to buy his Hooker Long Tube Headers off of him. They MIGHT have 10 miles on them. He pretty much built the engine, took it down the road and then let it sit.

Anyways, my current set up is in my sig. Stock headers, BBK h-pipe, and flowmasters. I already need to new tailpipes from the flowmasters back as they have rusted holes in them. So, I was contemplating getting these Hooker Headers and redoing the rest of the exhaust.

I want to know everyone's opinons on hooker headers.. Good Performance? Good Quality? etc. I noticed most people run Mac or BBk but I never see anyone running Hooker and wonder why.

Also, because I have a BBK H-pipe for stock headers. Will I be forced to come up with something else? Or can the h-pipe be modified to fit the long tubes? Anyone done that before If not, I need some good recomendations for a H-pipe or X-pipe that will fit. (im leaning for X-pipe right now for no particular reason, just for a change).

Last but not least, will getting long tubes and x-pipe dramatically make my exhaust tone different while using the same flowmasters? Or will it be mostly the same? And, will all this work be worth it in the end (meaning, what kind of power should I expect from the change, will it at least be SOTP??) ?

Thanks for all your help guys. I know there is ALOT of questions in there, but I'm little excited because I have a change to get some LT's and just wanna know I'm doing the right thing.

 

[old_blue]

I think a better intake with good set of heads will help those long tubes and your SOTP feel. I would put them on just because I will eventually be puttin a new intake and heads on. I didnt think that long tubes would make much of a difference in sound but a buddy of mine and I have the same setup save the fact he is running long tubes and his exhaust sounds better than mine. I have seen people modify their h-/x-pipe to fit long tubes. I plan on modifying mine as well when i get long tubes. It might just depend on how they are setup and where they meet under the car. Have fun.

 

[old_blue]

Oh, and I ran hooker headers on my 68 camaro and they were of high quality.. never had a problem with them. I am not sure what kind of setup your brother was running but if he was running flows then you had a chance to hear 5.0 with long tubes

 

[poneypower89]

Oh, and I ran hooker headers on my 68 camaro and they were of high quality.. never had a problem with them. I am not sure what kind of setup your brother was running but if he was running flows then you had a chance to hear 5.0 with long tubes

No way in h3LL my car will sound like his did

86 gt block
High Compression doomed pistions (12:1)
Ported e7's
1.7 RR's
e-303 cam
Eldbrock Performer RPM intake
650 CFM Avenger Carb
OPEN Hooker Long Tube Headers

The high compression coupled with the cam lope and open headers made that thing sound MEAN.

Anyways, my car IS FORCED induction so I was thinking that any type of a more free flowing exhaust would amplifiy the SC's power making. I could be wrong there I suppose.

Also, because my Uncle owns a junkyard that I have the keys too Im allowed to pretty much pull whatever I want out of it for free. So, this summer I will be keeping my eye out for some free JY mods like gt-40p heads and explorer intake. Not neccessarily the best, but it is free and should support a good amount of power when I crank up the boost. So, that leads me to another question, will I have a problem with spark plug angle on the gt-40p's and the hooker long tubes???

 

[old_blue]

It will sound exactly like his, that is how he got that sound, just put on long tubes.... yeah I got nothing .... why did he pull that motor, sounds like he had a very nice setup.


I believe you will run into slight problem with those heads and headers. I am have always read people not being able to run most brand name headers b/c of the spark plug angle. But, someone with experience with those heads will be better to help you out. Why not just take your brothers ported e-7s with the headers? just tell him they would come apart so you took both.

 

[Blk91stang]

It will sound exactly like his, that is how he got that sound, just put on long tubes.

Sorry but a low compression motor with no cam isnt going to sound anywhere near a high compression motor with a big cam. Disconnect the mufflers on a stock compression/cammed stang and notice how it sounds like compete poo. I know from my 85' mustang with 12.5:1 comp and a .580 lift cam .

 

[poneypower89]

It will sound exactly like his, that is how he got that sound, just put on long tubes.... yeah I got nothing .... why did he pull that motor, sounds like he had a very nice setup.


I believe you will run into slight problem with those heads and headers. I am have always read people not being able to run most brand name headers b/c of the spark plug angle. But, someone with experience with those heads will be better to help you out. Why not just take your brothers ported e-7s with the headers? just tell him they would come apart so you took both.

He is getting ride of the the set-up because it was his Automotive Vocational School Project. Which, he basically did as cheaply as he could, got an A, and then didn't really have any more interests in it. I would take the e7's but they are a home port job and I have no idea how they flow. Plus, he wants to make his money back by selling the engine from carb to oil pan, and the tranny. The tranny is a real nice racing c-4 auto too with a large TQ convertor, shift kit, etc. Because exhaust systems aren't usually included when selling an engine I have a chance to pick up the LT's.

Im in no way set on gt-40ps. But if I do get some for free and they work with without any major problems then why not ya know? At least untill I scrounge up the cash for something better.

 

[poneypower89]

Sorry but a low compression motor with no cam isnt going to sound anywhere near a high compression motor with a big cam. Disconnect the mufflers on a stock compression/cammed stang and notice how it sounds like compete poo. I know from my 85' mustang with 12.5:1 comp and a .580 lift cam .

Yeah, my car will sound nothing like his did. In case anyone is wondering here is a small video of the car. It will let you get a hint of what it sounded like and you will know what Blk91stang and I are talking about.

Brothers Car

 

[cheddarbacon]

sounds ok

Yeah, my car will sound nothing like his did. In case anyone is wondering here is a small video of the car. It will let you get a hint of what it sounded like and you will know what Blk91stang and I are talking about.

Brothers Car

Hey man you can get your car sounding way better I think that car didnt sound all that you try to make it sound unless the sound quilty is not that well on that camcorder truust me my buddys 89 hatch with a mac off road h and equall leangths and flowmasters 40's sounded viscous oh by the way it was dumped

 

[poneypower89]

Hey man you can get your car sounding way better I think that car didnt sound all that you try to make it sound unless the sound quilty is not that well on that camcorder truust me my buddys 89 hatch with a mac off road h and equall leangths and flowmasters 40's sounded viscous oh by the way it was dumped

That video was shot from INSIDE another car. PLUS, the sound resolution from a cheap digi isnt so good. It does help if you have a subwoofer though, so you can really hear the lope in the cam. Trust me, this car sounds just as mean as I say it does. Dont listen to the 'loud' in the video, listen to the tone and the lope... thats how you can tell it sounds mean. If you ever go dragracing and watch actual dragracers.. not street cars with mufflers and cats and etc... Then you know what kinda sound Im talking about...

Either way, Im still looking for some opinons on these headers!

 

[cheddarbacon]

I know

That video was shot from INSIDE another car. PLUS, the sound resolution from a cheap digi isnt so good. It does help if you have a subwoofer though, so you can really hear the lope in the cam. Trust me, this car sounds just as mean as I say it does. Dont listen to the 'loud' in the video, listen to the tone and the lope... thats how you can tell it sounds mean. If you ever go dragracing and watch actual dragracers.. not street cars with mufflers and cats and etc... Then you know what kinda sound Im talking about...

Either way, Im still looking for some opinons on these headers!

Buddy i live right next to KCIR in indpendence Mo iam red neck to the bone i know what your talking about every year i go to fun ford weekend here so awp i see the worlds fastest mustang once a year.


not saying anything but that car prolly does sound bad ass props to your bro on hes A he gets a A in my book and if i were you get thoses headers only 10 miles on them get out of here thats a deal and you get familly discount

 

[old_blue]

Originally Posted by tbadair
It will sound exactly like his, that is how he got that sound, just put on long tubes.... yeah I got nothing ....

Sorry but a low compression motor with no cam isnt going to sound anywhere near a high compression motor with a big cam. Disconnect the mufflers on a stock compression/cammed stang and notice how it sounds like compete poo. I know from my 85' mustang with 12.5:1 comp and a .580 lift cam .

I was being sarcastic incase you didnt see that

 

[cheddarbacon]

iam not

Originally Posted by tbadair
It will sound exactly like his, that is how he got that sound, just put on long tubes.... yeah I got nothing ....




I was being sarcastic incase you didnt see that

dude seriuosly that car is pretty cool

 

[poneypower89]

ALRIGHT this thread is getting :OT:

Lets get back to the real issues at hand.
Hooker Headers:
Good Choice for quailty and performance?
What can/should I do for a midpipe
power expectations
sound expectations
fitament with possible gt-40p's (this will in no way swuede my decision, im just curious)

 

[BaXTeR3221]

I always thought of hooker as a more expensive brand than BBK/MAC. Longtubes usually give you a deeper sound and eliminate some drone when cruising. I wouldn't try to modify your h-pipe to fit the longtubes, that sounds like more work than its worth.

 

[poneypower89]

I always thought of hooker as a more expensive brand than BBK/MAC. Longtubes usually give you a deeper sound and eliminate some drone when cruising. I wouldn't try to modify your h-pipe to fit the longtubes, that sounds like more work than its worth.

Yeah, I'm thinking you may be right about modding the H-pipe... Knowing myself, I would find out a way to really mess it up and cause some serious back pressure or something.

I've looked around and havent been able to locate an X-pipe for the Hooker headers yet. Does anyone know if they exist? Will I just have to make due with a *universal X-pipe kit"?

 

[poneypower89]

Damn, stuff moves down fast in 5.0 tech today