How could this happen all over again!

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I put my car back together from the blown head gasket and it was running fine and I drove all around today w/o getting on it just normal driving b/c of the rain. I took it out a little while ago and since it's dry boosted the motor to about 10 psi and man did it feel good to get down on it again. I heard slight detonation on the next pull and then my car starts to overheat. It idles great and sounds good but when I looked at the dipstick it is slightly milky again so I pull the plug and yep anti-freeze and oil! WTF?!
I put them on and torqued them in the order w/85 lbs and ARP bolts.
Could it be the Fel Pro gaskets that I got? I bought the gasket kit and it came with the Fel Pro 85's not the 9333's. What did I do wrong here? I am going to tear it down again tonight and I don't want to make the same mistake. Not enough sealer on the bottom bolts? Help
I should have used Cometics gaskets

 

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sorry to hear that It might be your gasket. I just replaced one, torque the bolts down to 70ftlbs bottom, 75ftlbs top and when I pulled out my plugs to do my turbos, then looked fine. I dont think blowby could cause that right? Trick Flow recomends the Fel-Pro 1011-2 gaskets for their heads on the site... I believe thats what I went with, or it was the 1011-1... not sure

 

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1011-2 for aluminium heads .039" compressed thickness
1011-1 for steel heads and .041" compressed thickness

That is what i have always been told to use.

 

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Thats a drag.... Sorry to hear that...All that freakin work....I see all these post on boost...and it honestly makes me wonder if its worth it.....Did you verify the heads were flat before re-assy??? Did you bring it to temp and then re-torque em???
Hang in there...

 

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The ones that came in the kit were for stock application and no power adders. I don't know why I used them!
On the brighter side, after just doing the job it will go much faster this time b/c I learned so much here on the boards and I have less stuff to pull off.

What gaskets for 12 PSI and stock E7's is all I want to know so I can order some asap. Thanks!

 

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I'm going to say the Fel-Pro 1011-1 for your car. I'd be afraid to work on your car because I might scratch something, or get something dirty... I dont know how you do it

 

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Damn RIO I did not heat up and then re-torque!
I had the heads milled before install.

 

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Andy... I didnt heat up and retoqrue my heads when I installed them... Will I encounter any problems?

 

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In the FRPP catalog they list M-6051-B51 (46.95) Pg 56 in the 2004 book, as the head gasket for boosted applications in a 5.0..
I get my stuff o/nite from FRPP so I run mostly their stuff....

 

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too much boost?

 

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Its not really an issue with irons...You had em milled, they should have been ok then..Did you RTV lightly around the water ports on the heads??? i usually smear a light coat around those big end ports to...
I know most alum stuff, its suggested....you have more thermal expansion from the cast block to the alum head...If and when i do alums, I will do that step, most time the valves need re-doing anyway,,its the perfect time to do it.......I believe AFR recommends it on the instructions...

 

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Zach
I was and now am again having the same feeling you have to want to drive your beast again! This is the first time I pulled my car apart and I was just appreciating how well everything went back together and here I am ready to break her down one more time. I'm glad I learned to do this myself or I would be going broke here! Thanks to all my fellow StangNet'rs

 

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I think I see a grease smudge there

 

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that engine bay is friggen beautiful, dude!

-James
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That sux, I know your pain except my second time was ring damage on 8. Hopefully now that your a pro you can swap out head gaskets in a few hours.

 

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i think that rad bottle needs some more polishing

ive got that pic on my harddrive- i just stare at it and wonder -HOW, so prettttty

 

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i just stare at it and wonder -HOW

Click to expand...

lots and lots of time and patience... one I have.. the other I dont

 

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JR, I hear nothing but great things about ROL head gaskets. That's what would be on my car if I ever ran a SC. I know Ed C. has them, but I don't know where else to get them from. I do hear good things about cometic too though, but ROL would still be my choice.

 

Killercanary

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I forgot to ask, what is your compression now since the heads were milled??? That could very well be part of the problem. I know the ROL gaskets are available in a "thick" style gasket which could help you if this is in fact part of the problem.

 

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been there done that man!! Two HG's in one week, and one huge towing bill from a dyno lol! I got out of the boosted (turbo) game as quickly as i got into it.

There are so many possibilities. First thing to do, is check the plugs for color/detonation. Then examine the gaskets. Same spots as before? Ring broken, or pushed out or what? Once you figure out those things, then u can begin to narrow it down a bit.

Good luck, keep us posted.