How Much Hp Am I Putting To The Wheels?

BradleyMustang3 · Oct 23, 2012

302 bored 30 over out of a 92 5.0
10:1 Compression
probe forged piston heads
edelbrock performer aluminum heads
1.7 roller rockers
ford racing e303 cam
Steeda under drive pulleys
Cold air intake
msd coil
ford racing push rods
dss stud girdle
jba headers(long tubes no cats)
x pipe
flowmaster american thunder exhaust

what do you guys think im putting to the crank and wheels and i know stock they made 215 but im guessing that was at the crank not the wheels?

95Vert383AOD · Oct 23, 2012

You're probably gonna get flamed for this post. We see so many "Guess my HP" threads. It gets a general pissing in the wind kind of repentance.

What intake are you using? Mass air meter size? Throttle body size? With a good tune i would guess 285hp and the wheels and a lil over 300 at the crank.

Thats roughly 100hp more than stock. The 215 advertised was at the crank.
Chris

BradleyMustang3 · Oct 23, 2012

yeah i dont like to ask but i bought the car this way so i have no idea where its at. the kid sold it to me cause it wouldnt run right he told me the symptoms so i went 200 miles to get it with a tfi and tps in hand and it worked out well...

he took the trick flow intake off and put on off of a lincon 5.0 on it...havnt changed it yet
stock maf stock tb i have a 75mm tb and adator elbow but im trying to hunt down a gt40 tubular or off an explorer

Thanks
Brad

95Vert383AOD · Oct 23, 2012

I'm not sure about the flow numbers but i would stick with a trickflow intake or even the Holley efi intakes if you can find one.

VibrantRedGT · Oct 23, 2012

That E cam isn't the right choice for you mods. I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 270-285HP sounds about right. My car with Heads / Cam / Intake / Exhaust made 292HP to the wheels.

Noobz347 · Oct 23, 2012

FIVE-TEEN!... I mean... PURPLE!

JordanB21 · Oct 23, 2012

Stock 5.0s from 92 and down were all rated at 225 not 215. Standard changed I think in 93? Anyways it isn't the same 215, it's slightly higher output.

revhead347 · Oct 23, 2012

Stock 5.0 Mustangs with a manual put down 190rwhp. The year doesn't matter much. I would agree with the others at 285 provided everything is working correctly.

Kurt

95Vert383AOD · Oct 24, 2012

JordanB21 said:
Stock 5.0s from 92 and down were all rated at 225 not 215. Standard changed I think in 93? Anyways it isn't the same 215, it's slightly higher output.

I thought the lower HP was because of the intake design to clear the hood?

VibrantRedGT · Oct 24, 2012

95Vert383AOD said:
I thought the lower HP was because of the intake design to clear the hood?

Yup that's exactly it. The 94-95's have the sloping hood so they modified the intake. Whether it took 10HP away is undetermined. Nobody tested this theory. Everything else carried over minus the accessories, they are different on the 94-95's.

JordanB21 · Oct 24, 2012

95Vert383AOD said:
I thought the lower HP was because of the intake design to clear the hood?

Right. I forgot about that, but is the intake difference really worth a 10 HP?
Anyways, there was something about the way they tested the vehicles horsepower that changed, part of the reason why the 93 cobra was rated at a low 235 horsepower. Maybe I misread, however long ago.

Back on topic, it's not important, but its been noted that the foxbody 5.0s (MAF ones) responded better to modification versus the 5.0s out of an sn95. Not a clue if that's true or not, just rumor.

revhead347 · Oct 24, 2012

I'm pretty sure the 93' was rated at 205hp, and the 94' was rated at 215hp. Either way, they put the same power to the wheels. It has nothing to do with the intake.

Kurt

Dino Dino Bambino · Oct 24, 2012

BradleyMustang3 said:
what do you guys think im putting to the crank and wheels and i know stock they made 215 but im guessing that was at the crank not the wheels?

That's at the crank. Stock manual GTs put down ~190hp at the wheels.
With your mods I estimate your engine combo will put down ~290rwhp. Your Lincoln intake, MAF and TB are collectively costing you at least 20rwhp. With those items upgraded you could have 310+rwhp.

VibrantRedGT · Oct 25, 2012

JordanB21 said:
Back on topic, it's not important, but its been noted that the foxbody 5.0s (MAF ones) responded better to modification versus the 5.0s out of an sn95. Not a clue if that's true or not, just rumor.

The FOX cars did respond better to mods because of the A9L non OBD-II computer (ECC).

BradleyMustang3 · Oct 25, 2012

That E cam isn't the right choice for you mods. I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 270-285HP sounds about right. My car with Heads / Cam / Intake / Exhaust made 292HP to the wheels.

VibrantRed what would be a better cam choice?

and i figured that intake manifold was choking the motor out...i almost had a gt40 off of an early 97 explorer yesterday but i didnt have my star keys with me and the junkyard was closing so they told me i couldnt go out and come back in all i needed was to get the two bolts under that 5.0 plate and i was home free...worst part is that junk yard is an hour and a half away lol

revhead347 · Oct 27, 2012

VibrantRedGT said:
The FOX cars did respond better to mods because of the A9L non OBD-II computer (ECC).

None of the 5.0 Mustangs (except for the 2010' and up) were OBD 2. But yeah, the A9L was more tolerant of mods.

Kurt

JJ95GTID · Oct 27, 2012

revhead347 said:
The FOX cars did respond better to mods because of the A9L non OBD-II computer (ECC).

None of the 5.0 Mustangs (except for the 2010' and up) were OBD 2. But yeah, the A9L was more tolerant of mods.

Gents, 94-95 5.0L Mustangs are ODB1. 96 to 04 are ODB2. Not sure on the 05+.
If our Mustangs were ODB2 I would've bought a handheld programmer years ago.

JJ95GTID · Oct 27, 2012

I agree though that the 93 and older Foxes took upgrades more nicely than the 94-95s.
Ford had to do some tweaking to the EEC-IV to make it pass emissions standards of the time.

revhead347 · Oct 27, 2012

I forgot the details, but they switched it to load based logic or something like that in 94' to keep the crappy T-5s they were still using from breaking. That's why the computers are more fickle. Makes no difference which computer you use once you put a chip on it though.

Kurt

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