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ford302redneck

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I was figuring my build last night. Came up with a really high number.

How much does everybody have in there motor build.

Like stroker,h/c/i, and supporting mods.

I came up with like 8grand.
 
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cbarr300

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depends on if you do it right or not.

You could prolly squeeze by with 5000 if you skimped on some things.

It also depends on just how far you wanna go with supporting mods. Do you wanna stop at a fuel pump or do you wanna change lines and **** too? Obviously you wouldn't have to do that unless you made some serious power.

but my point is....if you do suspension, fuel, etc...it could easily get up to 8 grand.

which parts were you looking at?
 

BlackVert

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heh ... i'm not sure i want to know exactly what mine was, but i bet it was closer to 11 grand
 

Black95GTS

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I added up what mine was going to cost to make it the way I wanted it, came up with around 10 grand, and then sold the car.

Ignorance is bliss.

Adam
 

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BlackVert said:
heh ... i'm not sure i want to know exactly what mine was...
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I feel the same way. I've never added up what i have in mine, but I know its a lot. Just my shortblock cost over $5000. I did build a dart block based 331 with all forged internals and had it internally balanced though too. My H/C/I and supporting mods was probably over $3K in itself, and I'm replacing nearly all of it too.
 

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Black95GTS said:
I added up what mine was going to cost to make it the way I wanted it, came up with around 10 grand, and then sold the car.

Ignorance is bliss.

Adam
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Ha!
I did it and now i've been wanting to sell the car for quite some time. I'm not even going to begin to add up what it costs to do it right.
 

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I'm going to assume you were looking 331/347 and not a 306.

Depending on if you are willing to put the whole engine together or if you have a shop build the shortblock, longblock, etc. will change the prices.

Is that $8k in just parts and with you doing the labor? That must be a heck of a list...

The thing I try and remember as I slowly plan ahead for a solid engine platform is that, for the most part, this cost is only going to come once. I like the people here for thinking with their heads and not try to make ridiculous HP/TQ for as cheap as possible.

Beyond the cost all you have to do is maintenance and put gas in to compensate for your specific foot to floor ratio

I've been looking at DSS lately. A 331 short block can be $1,700 to $3k, and if you want to make serious power down the road and add a Dart block... well, add $2k. You have your choice of a custom cam, all sorts of great heads and intakes, gaskets, maybe new accessories while everything is apart, any powder coating, ignition, fuel, valve covers... and the list goes on and on.

I look at the higher price tags (most of the time) as preventative maintenance, cool factor, and a solid investment in having one hell of a fun machine.

Now no, I don't have $8k, nor do I have the means of achieving that much to dump into my car before this summer is long since past, but one day you'll hopefully see me posting pictures of a sweet new stroker in my engine bay and a heck of a dyno sheet.

Now that I've strayed far enough from the point of the thread... I think $8k is a pretty good middle ground number and if you have it to spare, run with it
 

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I'll name my parts.

Machine Block-$500.
Stroker kit- $1000.(331 balanced)
Heads- $1400 (AFR 185)
Intake- $569(Holley)
Elbow- $92
Cam-$250
Lifters-$169
Rocker-$250
Pushrods-$40
Timingchain-$50
Gaskets-$100
Throttle Body-$250
Fuel pressure regulator-$109
Headers- $389(Longtubes)
H-pipe-$159
Fuel pump-$129
Injectors-$350
MAF-$250
CAI-$250
Clutch-$350
MSD-$600(Everything)

Then figuring another $500-1000 for little stuff, oilpump,waterpump, ect.
 

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Don't forget a tune.
 

ford302redneck

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gcomfx.com said:
Don't forget a tune.
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I hope thats in the little stuff.

Lucky, Amazon is only a couple hours away from me, in Anderson, SC.




But I maybe looking into something a little cheaper. Tryin to figure what it be tho.
 

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What kinda miles are on your stock engine? Supercharger would be the way I would go if my stocker was still in descent shape. I however had 200,000 miles and enough nitrous to finally kill off my rings. Had a chance to trade a website for some engine work, and there you have it. Where I am today.
 

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try finding some of that stuff used!! like the elbow and t body
 

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A while back, several of us were playing around with plans for combos using
a six grand budget

Perhaps you can get some ideas

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=702728

Grady
 
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Sorry of the OT:

Hey ford302redneck..I'm guessing ur in SC?

if so what part are you in?
 

final5-0

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ford302redneck said:
I'll name my parts.

Machine Block-$500.
Stroker kit- $1000.(331 balanced)
Heads- $1400 (AFR 185)
Intake- $569(Holley)
Elbow- $92
Cam-$250
Lifters-$169
Rocker-$250
Pushrods-$40
Timingchain-$50
Gaskets-$100
Throttle Body-$250
Fuel pressure regulator-$109
Headers- $389(Longtubes)
H-pipe-$159
Fuel pump-$129
Injectors-$350
MAF-$250
CAI-$250
Clutch-$350
MSD-$600(Everything)

Then figuring another $500-1000 for little stuff, oilpump,waterpump, ect.
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If you are going all motor the MSD is not really needed
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You can rig up a CAI for less than 25 bux

I'd take a pass on that afpr as well since you'll need a custom tune

I mean ... I'd think you would not try and tune that kind of combo with just
fuel pressure adjustments and dizzy twisting

Grady
 

ford302redneck

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gcomfx.com said:
What kinda miles are on your stock engine? Supercharger would be the way I would go if my stocker was still in descent shape. I however had 200,000 miles and enough nitrous to finally kill off my rings. Had a chance to trade a website for some engine work, and there you have it. Where I am today.
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I have over 200,000 miles and previous owner, sprayed nitrous. So thats sorta out.

DDSTANG94 said:
try finding some of that stuff used!! like the elbow and t body
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Yah, that would cut some cost.

final5-0 said:
A while back, several of us were playing around with plans for combos using
a six grand budget

Perhaps you can get some ideas

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=702728

Grady
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Im read that, thanks

cbarr300 said:
Sorry of the OT:

Hey ford302redneck..I'm guessing ur in SC?

if so what part are you in?
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Darlington.

final5-0 said:
If you are going all motor the MSD is not really needed
and
You can rig up a CAI for less than 25 bux

I'd take a pass on that afpr as well since you'll need a custom tune

I mean ... I'd think you would not try and tune that kind of combo with just
fuel pressure adjustments and dizzy twisting

Grady
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I didnt know, I just thought I needed it regardless.
 

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I don't want to know..let me think..prolly with labor and all, DONE RIGHT with supporting mods.. $11k

u forgot supporting mods to put the power to the pavement..and ..trans?
 

ford302redneck

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Pokageek said:
I don't want to know..let me think..prolly with labor and all, DONE RIGHT with supporting mods.. $11k

u forgot supporting mods to put the power to the pavement..and ..trans?
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Both of those coming later.

I figure, I would get a new trans till my old one died.
 

ford302redneck

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Id really love to do a 306, and a vortech s/c.

But that but be just as clostly.
 

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ford302redneck said:
Id really love to do a 306, and a vortech s/c.

But that but be just as clostly.
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My plan was to add the S/C to my new combo... but as you probably tell. The S/C is on hold. The project cost me more than I was expecting. The new engine already finished off the rear end.
 
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