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How to use an orbital buffer properly ??

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good god that paint looks amazing!!!
 

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how long do the pads last? when u say pad u mean the foam ones eh? mabye i should buy those saying as I dropped the coin on the polisher heh.
 

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whats the diff between polishing and waxing, i always tough it was the same thing
 

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That's not a high-speed orbital, right?

Tim
 

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stang22 said:
That's not a high-speed orbital, right?

Tim
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well mine is 3200rpm i think
 

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TheDamned said:
well mine is 3200rpm i think
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That's a lot of RPM, but remember just because it's capable of 3200RPM doesn't mean you have to use 3200RPM. Burning through the clear coat would suck. I have always buffed between 800-1100 rpm.

Tim
 

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stang22 said:
That's a lot of RPM, but remember just because it's capable of 3200RPM doesn't mean you have to use 3200RPM. Burning through the clear coat would suck. I have always buffed between 800-1100 rpm.

Tim
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ummm, okay, its pretty hard to control the RPMs tough it just a button, no throtlle.
Thanks for the head up tough.
 

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Oh it's 2600rpm...

it's this buffer

 

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TheDamned said:
ummm, okay, its pretty hard to control the RPMs tough it just a button, no throtlle.
Thanks for the head up tough.
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My fault, I thought you meant BUFFER. There's a huge difference between yours and the DeWalt. Good luck.

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TheDamned said:
Oh it's 2600rpm...
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The internals are probably turning at 2600rpm, but the pad itself is probably turning much, much slower than that. You won't burn your paint with the one you have.

Tim
 

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Ok, if you don't know how to use the buffer definately do not attempt to use it on your car.

Maybe buy an old hood or something to practice on. Buffers can cause serious paint damage if used improperly.

I took just got a PC and can't wait to use it on my horrid black paint!
 

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stang22 said:
The internals are probably turning at 2600rpm, but the pad itself is probably turning much, much slower than that. You won't burn your paint with the one you have.

Tim
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Aight, thanks alot Tim

Ok, if you don't know how to use the buffer definately do not attempt to use it on your car.
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Well you and Tim are saying the opposite, I tough this can screw my car paint, it's made to wax cars ffs !!!

Here's the specs...

* 10" random-orbit polisher/waxer
* Double-ring handle with on/off switch gives added control when waxing or polishing
* Friction-resistant 10" cushioned foam pad is ideal for trim work and curved panels
* High-impact, heat-resistant ABS housing for added strength
* 120V magnet motor delivers a powerful 2,600 oscillations per minute
* Blow-moulded carrying case and extra-long 2 metre cord
* With plastic-lined terry-cloth wax applicator and 2 cotton polishing bonnets
 

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The DeWalt is what most body shops use after they wet sand a car to buff it out. As long as you don't use anything abrasive with the buffer/polisher that you own, you will be ok. That DeWalt buffer spins between 0-2500rpm, add a little bit of pressure and something abrasive and you can really mess your paint up. The Autotopia site has a bunch of good information on it, check it out when you get a chance. I certainly don't want to confuse you anymore, but your buffer is for the typical wax/polish. Most people use that buffer because it is easier than applying and removing wax/polish by hand. I know that's what I use mine for. Sorry to confuse you, just trying to help out.

Tim
 

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stang22 said:
The DeWalt is what most body shops use after they wet sand a car to buff it out. As long as you don't use anything abrasive with the buffer/polisher that you own, you will be ok. That DeWalt buffer spins between 0-2500rpm, add a little bit of pressure and something abrasive and you can really mess your paint up. The Autotopia site has a bunch of good information on it, check it out when you get a chance. I certainly don't want to confuse you anymore, but your buffer is for the typical wax/polish. Most people use that buffer because it is easier than applying and removing wax/polish by hand. I know that's what I use mine for. Sorry to confuse you, just trying to help out.

Tim
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lol, you did not confuse me Tim, it's the other guy.
My thing is designed to wax cars, not to buff the paint, that's what confused the people and i'm sorry, should've used orbital waxer instead in the thread title
 

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No sweat man!

Don't forget about the before and after pics.

Tim
 

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I use the PorterCable 7424. I got that and all the stuff (pads etc) from http://www.properautocare.com/porcabpolac.html

Unless you really know what you'e doing, don't get a speed buffer. You will leave more swirl marks than you had before if you don't do it right and you';; probably burn through at the corners. This buffer with a stiff pad will eat through paint if you really want it to. I like it becuase it's small and can get into every nitch.

I use each pad with each compound. The NXT Tech wax is good stuff for the money. I only used the swirl mark remover with the stiff pad on my hood when I bought it already painted black from the junkyard. It's awsome stuff! The yellow pad to the right is the stiff, the middle is medium and grey pad is soft.

Here is the hood that sat in a junkyard for who knows how long. It was NASTY when I got it. I wish I had before/aft, I just have after
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~jtennant/Pics/MyPhotos/poor_car/Junkyard Hood/

 

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Zero Signal said:
I use the PorterCable 7424. I got that and all the stuff (pads etc) from http://www.properautocare.com/porcabpolac.html

Unless you really know what you'e doing, don't get a speed buffer. You will leave more swirl marks than you had before if you don't do it right and you';; probably burn through at the corners. This buffer with a stiff pad will eat through paint if you really want it to. I like it becuase it's small and can get into every nitch.

I use each pad with each compound. The NXT Tech wax is good stuff for the money. I only used the swirl mark remover with the stiff pad on my hood when I bought it already painted black from the junkyard. It's awsome stuff! The yellow pad to the right is the stiff, the middle is medium and grey pad is soft.

Here is the hood that sat in a junkyard for who knows how long. It was NASTY when I got it. I wish I had before/aft, I just have after
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~jtennant/Pics/MyPhotos/poor_car/Junkyard Hood/
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well not gonna leave my waxer shiny in the box.. i paid fricking 80$ for it
 

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You don't need anything fancy though. You would laugh if you saw what I used to use. You can find 10" bonnets at the auto store. I like the foam ones best.
 

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Zero Signal said:
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When you get some time try out the Turtle Wax Ultra Gloss paste....its MUCH deeper than the NXT. I did a side by side comparison on my hood. I love that new Turtle Wax Ultra Gloss....its freakin awesome. I know another guy in another thread said he used to use zaino....until he used the T.W. and he said he will never go back to zaino.
 

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i talked to a detailer at a car lot, and he said that using a GLAZE and a buffer, its nearly impossible to burn the paint, and its super easy, and looks great. I'm going to talk to him to see what all i need to get, but i doubt it would be that hard if you stayed smart and didnt run it too hot.

WHAT IS GLAZE?
 
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