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Hydraulic clutch cnc master cylinder

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dcstang67

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I currently have a T5Z with a Ram Powergrip HD clutch installed. Even with the hydraulic pedal it is still pretty stiff. It really givees my leg a workout in traffic. The master is a CNC 3/4" cylinder. The slave is a CNC Push style 305. I would like to go bigger with the master to make the pedal a little easier. Should I go up to 7/8" or 1"?
 

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If the pedal is too stiff, you need a smaller bore, not larger, to make the pedal effort lighter.
 
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Or you need to mount the clutch linkage pin closer to the upper pivot to get more leverage
 

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C0V3R said:
Or you need to mount the clutch linkage pin closer to the upper pivot to get more leverage
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Sounds like you're using the same master slave combo that I have in my stang. Leverage is likely the answer. My pedal is fairly easy to depress, but it took me a while to find the best pivot point to get the pedal throw and effort close. I had to compromise a bit. Using on of those aftermarket pedal assembles would have probably been optimal, but who know what I'd have had to do to make one fit under the dash.

A larger master will be displacing a larger amount of fluid as the pedal is depressed. I thought about putting one in my car just to reduce the amount of travel in the pedal. I decided to just live with what I'd already put together.
 

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If I went with a smaller master to make the pedal effort easier then the the throw of the slave would be smaller right? Looks like I might have to raise the linkage point on my pedal. Maybe fabricat a wedge shaped spacer to go between the master and the firewall to mimic the angle on the JMC master cylinders.
 
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dcstang67 said:
If I went with a smaller master to make the pedal effort easier then the the throw of the slave would be smaller right?
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No. The stroke of the master will be longer to accomplish the same work. ie, if the clutch disengages/engages at half pedal currently, for instance, then with a smaller master you might get disengage/engagement at 3/4's of the way down instead. Obviously, you can only go 'so much' smaller before you run out of travel to accomplish the same work. You might want to try a 5/8" master. We did this on my friends car. Went from a 3/4" to 5/8" and it made a great difference in pedal feel. I think we had to 'preload' the throwout bearing against the fingers to get disengagement but it really works good.
 
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