I hate this steering column, sooooo

Stroked N Blown · Sep 26, 2008

I have a 90 5.0 vert and as you know it has a air bag with a non-tilt steering wheel. I also have a couple of tilt wheels from an 89 & 88 . Is it easy to swith from a non-tilt wheel to a tilt wheel. Has anyone done this and how hard is it? Is there a link that explains it?

Mustang5L5 · Sep 26, 2008

You will prob want to swap the entire column..not the wheel.

It's been done though, i don;t have info unfortunately

tiptop · Sep 27, 2008

ya, its probally not that hard of a job too do, did a few on other makes of cars, and there not all that bad, maybe just have a friend near by with his phone on, might need a hand getting that crush pin in.

jrichker · Sep 27, 2008

Be aware that the 87-89 column wiring was different from the 90 up column. You will have to either move all the electrical
switches and wiring from the 90 column to the 89 column or move the wires around. The multifunction switch is the
primary problem. There are several wires that don't go to the correct places when you use a 87-89 switch in place of a 90 switch.

Stroked N Blown · Sep 27, 2008

Thanks for your responses. Is there anyone out there that has actually done this? I have the entire columns and swithes, everything. However, Im not very good at placing wires in the correct places. Anything helps!!!

asdavenport1 · Sep 27, 2008

I would like to know as well, I was going to ask this same question.

Stroked N Blown · Sep 27, 2008

You hate it to? It is not hard to change the column, Ive done that several times, but I have never had to fiddle with the wiring. Thats my big concern. I dont want to change it and then have an electrician hook up the wires. Expennnnnnnsive. Maybe someone will be kind enough to give us a hand.

asdavenport1 · Sep 27, 2008

Yea, I am tired of my airbag wheel. My wheel is pretty worn and the cost of repairing is ridiculous. I would almost be satisfied with replacing just the wheel with a Grant or similar, but don't know what it would look like. You ever seen a 90-93 without the airbag wheel? Would it look tacky?

Stroked N Blown · Sep 27, 2008

I pesonally dont like it. I want to keep my cruise. Besides I really like the tilt and thats why I want to swap. The cruise and tilt, Thats what Im talkin about.

jrichker · Sep 27, 2008

You should be able to move the wiring & switches from one column to the other column and be OK. That way its only bolting and unbolting things.

asdavenport1 · Sep 27, 2008

Oh, I am going to keep my cruise either way. Grant makes a kit that comes with new buttons and it mounts to most of their wheels. I just have to figure out if I am going to change the column out or not. Do you know if it will look funny, I mean how does the column trim match up on the older column to the newer Speedo bezel?

Stroked N Blown · Sep 28, 2008

I dont know how the Grant would look. Why dont you try the sn95? I think that looks really good, however, the wheel is a little close to the driver. But it looks good.

Stroked N Blown · Sep 28, 2008

jrichker said:
You should be able to move the wiring & switches from one column to the other column and be OK. That way its only bolting and unbolting things.

I cant imagine Ford making it that easy, can you?

Mustang5L5 · Sep 28, 2008

asdavenport1 said:
Oh, I am going to keep my cruise either way. Grant makes a kit that comes with new buttons and it mounts to most of their wheels. I just have to figure out if I am going to change the column out or not. Do you know if it will look funny, I mean how does the column trim match up on the older column to the newer Speedo bezel?

You'll want to use the 87-89 column trim. It will match up fine. Here's a 90-93 dash with an 87-89 tilt column. I have an SN95 wheel on there now

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Stroked N Blown · Sep 28, 2008

Mustang5L5 said:
You'll want to use the 87-89 column trim. It will match up fine. Here's a 90-93 dash with an 87-89 tilt column. I have an SN95 wheel on there now

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Let me get this straight. You have an 88 with a tilt colnmn. So you changed the dash to accomodate the new trim and the SN-95 wheel Or did you just change the cluster housing? Which would be much easier. By the way, are you still able to reach the pedals with that thicker wheel on. How does it feel?

Mustang5L5 · Sep 28, 2008

The car is an '88, but the dash is 90-93. I kept the original tilt column and column trim. I changed the dash because i wanted OEM black. No other reason. The SN95 wheel swap came later after seeing it done on a few cars and liking how it looked.

The gauge cluster is the original '88 cluster, but i had a newer one in and it mounts up the same, so you shouldn't have to change your gauges or gauge surround at all. It fits nicely and you would never know it's not OEM.

The Sn95 wheel is about 1.5" closer to you. Diameter-wise it's 1/2" bigger so not a big deal there. I can reach the pedals fine as i have long legs. Unsure how it will feel once i swap to 5-spd and begin shifting. It can be wired to make the horn and cruise work as well.

I'm still working on it as you can see since the airbag is not in place. I'm just mounting up the contact wheel on the backside of the SN95 wheel so the horn/cruise contacts mate up correctly.

I have a thread on the SN95 wheel swap.
http://forums.stangnet.com/763027-sn95-steering-wheel-into-87-89-fox.html

Stroked N Blown · Sep 28, 2008

Mustang5L5 said:
The car is an '88, but the dash is 90-93. I kept the original tilt column and column trim. I changed the dash because i wanted OEM black. No other reason. The SN95 wheel swap came later after seeing it done on a few cars and liking how it looked.

The gauge cluster is the original '88 cluster, but i had a newer one in and it mounts up the same, so you shouldn't have to change your gauges or gauge surround at all. It fits nicely and you would never know it's not OEM.

The Sn95 wheel is about 1.5" closer to you. Diameter-wise it's 1/2" bigger so not a big deal there. I can reach the pedals fine as i have long legs. Unsure how it will feel once i swap to 5-spd and begin shifting. It can be wired to make the horn and cruise work as well.

I'm still working on it as you can see since the airbag is not in place. I'm just mounting up the contact wheel on the backside of the SN95 wheel so the horn/cruise contacts mate up correctly.

I have a thread on the SN95 wheel swap.
http://forums.stangnet.com/763027-sn95-steering-wheel-into-87-89-fox.html

Ahhhhh, I gottcha now. Is the wheel expensive? I have a 90 vert 5.0 that I paid$1000 for and its fairly ugly so it will take awhile.

Mustang5L5 · Sep 28, 2008

I paid $50 for the wheel and $30 for an airbag.

Non-leather wrapped wheels are cheaper.

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