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JTGrant

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Since Motive is manufacturing the 4.30s for FRPP, is the Motive high performance series the same gear as the FRPP 4.30?
 

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The 4.30's in my 03 Mach 1 made absolutely no noise (still don't) and were FRPP gears. I work at a Ford dealership, and the tech that did the install is awesome. Shimmed them correctly and the install was done right the first time. He's done a few gear swaps for me now. I think the installer makes a huge difference in the outcome of the swap.
 

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I was looking at the gear-to-rpm-to-mph chart that I have in excel format. (I can post it if anyone would like a copy) I need to rev to 6500-6600 rpm to acheive 60 mph in second gear with the current stock wheels and the Nitto 555s. I guess these gears are more for the Mach1s and the Cobras given that they are designed to rev higher. I really don't feel comfortable about about reving the car that high everytime I race it. If shifting around the stock redline I really done see how the 4.30 would be faster than the 4.10s (Correct me if I am wrong). Still not sure about future mods, it all depends on what the redesigned Mustang's look like and what powerplant they may have. So I am still not 100% sure about the future power level of me car. Just keeping it simple right know.
 
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JTGrant said:
I was looking at the gear-to-rpm-to-mph chart that I have in excel format. (I can post it if anyone would like a copy) I need to rev to 6500-6600 rpm to acheive 60 mph in second gear with the current stock wheels and the Nitto 555s. I guess these gears are more for the Mach1s and the Cobras given that they are designed to rev higher. I really don't feel comfortable about about reving the car that high everytime I race it. If shifting around the stock redline I really done see how the 4.30 would be faster than the 4.10s (Correct me if I am wrong). Still not sure about future mods, it all depends on what the redesigned Mustang's look like and what powerplant they may have. So I am still not 100% sure about the future power level of me car. Just keeping it simple right know.
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I would like a copy of your Excel file...
 

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TGJ said:
I would like a copy of your Excel file...
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me too
 

DarkFireGT

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Again, what RPM are you at when you go through the traps? I'm assuming with 4.10's your in 4th when you hit the traps, correct?
 

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When I get home I will post the file. The file maybe too large to attach. PM me your emails and I will send it that way or is there another way?
 

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DarkFireGT said:
Again, what RPM are you at when you go through the traps? I'm assuming with 4.10's your in 4th when you hit the traps, correct?
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I don't remember the RPM through the traps, it's been awhile since I have been to the quater mile. Since I moved back home after graduating, there is no longer a track here anymore. They are plaining a track around here very soon. My trap speed was between 105-106 with my current mods minus the driveshaft, UDP, new tires, and the Brenspeed/Bamachips tunes. I would have to look at the chart to estimate the RPM. Yes I would shift to 4th.
 

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Uable to attach xls files pm me if you would like a copy of the file.
 

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With the 27.2" tire I was crossing the line at around 5200 RPM in 4th. I had my shift points set for 6500 RPM.
 

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I would like to hear from people that have the 4.30 gears, it really doesn't seem that there are many people that have this ratio. Most of the N/A S197s have 4.10s. Also how many of you S197s guys shift around 6500?
 

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Sounds like 4.30's would put you right at redline, if you have similar mods to Kooldawg.
 

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spyder7724 is running the 4.30s. I can't remember what size tire he runs, but it is quite tall. Perhaps PM him.
 

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i should have read this thread before i posted one in the talk section...

i'm assuming it's advisable to do a re-flash for 4.10's once installed and change the redline to about 6800...i'm running 285/35/18's...is that right!
 

DarkFireGT

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If Brenspeed did you tune, the default redline should be 6800. That's what both my cars were set at automatically.
 

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thank you dark...i believe it is at 6800 right now..i shift @ 6500..i should be fine.
 
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