Okay, I have been messing around with my car lately, today I decided to check the base timing, I have a brand new harmonic balancer(about 5000 miles) it is a stock replacement from autozone. I had no timing marks on it that I could see so I pulled the number one plug and rotated it until I felt a burst of air come out the spark plug hole. I figured this is where it is at top dead center on the compression stroke. I then looked at the balancer and there were timing marks on it, just very hard to see. I put some white out on the 0 mark and started the car. I was running retarded. While the car was running I disconnected the spout connecter and timed it. I only had to move the distributer a little tiny bit to get it to 10 degrees advanced, and I cant go anymore advanced because the tfi module is hitting my upper radiator hose. Anyway, I plugged the spout back in wehn i was done and the idle surged rediculously and the car died. Now the idle surges continuosly and will not stay running at idle. Also the damn thing is pinging like a sob. What did I do? All I did was unplug the spout, the thing had a rock solid idle before I messed with the timing, I doubt the balancer is spun, besides the timing marks where very close to where I estimated tdc to be with my crude test. So what should I look for? I realize the tps and everything should be checked, but the thing that confuses me is the idle was rock solid before, I also tried putting the timing back to where it was, which was basically straight up and down, but the car still surges. I also tried disconnecting the battery and that was no help. Thanks guys!!
I may have ajcked up my car :(
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wiski
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I'd try again, but remove the spount connecter before you start your work. When you have it set @ 10 degrees, then just plug it back in. If your TFI is hitting your upper radiator hose, then you probably have it too far back. On my car thats going to be something like 40 - 50 BTDC, maybe even further off. I'd also make sure you are setting the timing with your #1 cylender @ TDC on the compression stroke. (you probably are, but it never hurts to double check) Remove the distributor cap to make sure your rotor is really pointing towards the #1 cylender (as you look at the engine from the front of they car its the first plug on the left). After that, make SURE you have your timing marks correct. I rotated the crank until my marks were under the car, then climbed under and recheck that mark. Good luck!
GTPhreak
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I think I may have been using the wrong timing pointer 
. There is a circular hole that I was using, then to the right of that, right on top of the balancer there is a pointer. I timed it according to the pointer and it is running at least now, I have not had time to drive it. Is this the correct way to time it? Thanks for the help guys, sorry If I am an idiot, but I did do it in the dark last night 
. Thanks alot!!
. There is a circular hole that I was using, then to the right of that, right on top of the balancer there is a pointer. I timed it according to the pointer and it is running at least now, I have not had time to drive it. Is this the correct way to time it? Thanks for the help guys, sorry If I am an idiot, but I did do it in the dark last night . Thanks alot!!
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Camman said:I think I may have been using the wrong timing pointer
This may help
IndyBlk5.0
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good ole shawn with his ignition and timing diagrams, you guys should of seen some of his fine hand drawn work in paintshop he made for me5.0Droptop said:This may help
Mike86Stang
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IndyBlk5.0
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he is ussually living under my stang, becuase ive had probs and i need to iron them out,MSTANG said:Shawn do you have a life or do you live under your stang?
just ribbing ya bro
Mike86Stang
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Shawn? We can't be talkin about the same guy
...he never knows what he's doin
Nah Shawns awesome, he's been a great friend. I'd recomend everyone on stangnet to pester him for advice & help with thier cars
(He's gonna kill me hahahhaha)
...he never knows what he's doin Nah Shawns awesome, he's been a great friend. I'd recomend everyone on stangnet to pester him for advice & help with thier cars
(He's gonna kill me hahahhaha)
5.0Droptop
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MSTANG said:Shawn? We can't be talkin about the same guy
Nah Shawns awesome, he's been a great friend. I'd recomend everyone on stangnet to pester him for advice & help with thier cars
(He's gonna kill me hahahhaha)
Yes lately I have lived under my stang LOL!!
And Mstang if you were a friend you woulda come over and helped me. And dont give me the lamo excuse that your too busy to help me. Its less than an hour by Plane ROFLOL
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IndyBlk5.0 said:he is ussually living under my stang, becuase ive had probs and i need to iron them out,and i was under his the other night with him, hahaha, great guy and knows what hes doin
Becareful how you word that LOL
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