i need a nice functional hood

giddyup306 said:
No more of a waste of money than 18" rims...

Interesting opinion, senseless and irrelevant, but interesting.

I'll pm a moderator and ask him to edit the title and add "need choices on 18's"

Ram air hoods with supposidly function scoups do nothing but waste hard earned money, you get nothing at all from it, get the hood and be happy with it for looks and spend the extra $500 left over on real parts.
 
giddyup306 said:
No more of a waste of money than 18" rims...


jealous are we?? how 'bout this one, it's his money, if he wants to spend it on rims, hoods, speakers-whatever, it's his money.

...anyway, i don't know if the stormin norman or the mach 1 style hoods are "functional" but I bought a mach 1 for my '84 and if nothing else, it keeps ventilation up and heat down
 
giddyup306 said:
Same goes for him saying that to the author of this post.
I told the author don't waste his money, because the ram air kit does nothing. There is no performance gain, a $20 k&n in the box does the same.

$600 can get you a real intake and other parts that actually add HP.

So as i said, don't waste your money.

If he likes the hood he should get it. Serves the same purpose 18's do, change the look of the car. Which is exactly what they are designed to do.
 
2000xp8 said:
I told the author don't waste his money, because the ram air kit does nothing. There is no performance gain, a $20 k&n in the box does the same.

$600 can get you a real intake and other parts that actually add HP.

So as i said, don't waste your money.

If he likes the hood he should get it. Serves the same purpose 18's do, change the look of the car. Which is exactly what they are designed to do.

I guess no air must get to my engine then. I guess the "dew outline" on my hood where my air kit is attached must be my imagination. :rolleyes:

Either way, I looked at it like this. I liked the hood, so why not make it functional?
 
True reasons to buy a hood (in no particular order):
1. Front end weight reduction (we drive RWD cars, so the less weight on the front end, the better).
2. Clearance issues: some power adders, intakes, etc require getting a hood with a larger cowl to either allow the hood to close, or at the very least to allow proper ventillation.
3. Looks.
4. Functionality: Depending on the power adder, some hoods have inlets for, say, twin turbos. Their inlets run right to the most common places to mount twins and their filters. Sure, one could debate how well these inlets work, but unless they are like most of the newer stock 'Stang hoods with nice plastic caps inside the inlet to make it appear useful until you inspect them closely, they are going to at least pull in/vent out some cool/hot air as that is what holes like to do.
 
Would you rather suck air through a straw stuck in the sand, or wide open? In it's original form, the engine is trying to get fresh air from behind the passenger headlight. Not efficient at all, regardless of the filter used, or what "cold air kit" is in there. It isn't about "ram air" or making power. It IS about removing restrictions to the engines ability to easily suck air, and that it's cooler, denser air. Pulling air around headlights, body panels, framework, etc, all breaks down and thins the air charge. K&N's, removing air silencers, that stuff helps, but nothing is as efficient as the Stormin Norman hood except perhaps the March kit, but it's arguable whether or not you want to be sucking the crap off the pavement through two feet of convoluted hose or pulling it out of the air three feet up through six inches of smoothed air passage- which should theoretically be cleaner and has been proven to be at least 25% cooler- all good things. My engine ran noticeably smoother and rev'd quicker and easier with the Cervinins kit. When someone asks what the holes are for and are they just for looks- no, that's where the air goes in. I do know this- Stormin Norman Gray removed anything that wasn't necessary off his car, and was one of the first to be spending over $100 grand to build. He was disdainful of parts that didn't work, and this is his signature hood. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who thinks it's a waist of money can try telling him that... and then see if they can catch him. Yes, there are other things to spend $600 on that will build more power, but that's irrelevant- especially if you already have every other $600 part- and it doesn't negate the fact that it is functional even if it doesn't put up huge numbers on the dyno... neither does a gear swap.
 
Comparing a ram air to gears is apples to oranges, gears make a major difference, in some cars up to .5 in the quarter, a ram air may produce .1 or so if you are lucky.

Then i look at your web page, and your ram air utilizes the most restrictive part of the stock intake the rubber elbow with the ridges, doesn't make sense to me if you are so concerned with intake flow.

AFM power pipe or demolet motorsports pipe in the fender are far superior to any ram air.


If the ram air was so great the guys here with 12 second or quicker cars would be using them or a similar type.

Comparing stormin normans race car to a nearly unmodified street car is idiotic. Besides the stormin normin hood is horrifically ugly, no fox mustang deserves the punishment of wearing that thing, whether it be 2 hp or 50.
 
You are an amazingly rude person. Every aspect of life involves peoples tastes in what does or doesn't look good to them, and obviously many people disagree with you on whether or not this hood is cosmetically pleasing, just like many people disagree with you about whether or not a Saleen wing is horrifically ugly. Your asthetic opinion wasn't asked for, and based on that, has no relevence; and it's pretty insensitive to spout it when so many people like the look. If you have no attraction to people of a certain nationality, are you going to tell your friend that his wife is horrifically ugly? OH, I suppose that's probably apples and oranges to you too. Gears don't add power. You specifically said "other parts that actually add HP". I didn't say it, you did. Sythetic fluids don't necessarily add significantly measurable power or make cars faster, but there are advantages that make it worth 30% more expense to thousands of racers to run it. Sorry, apples and oranges again... synthetic oil doesn't have any cosmetic value. Any educated autocrosser will tell you not to waste $2000 on 18" wheels- which sounds a lot worse to me than a $600 hood... unless you really love the look (in spite of the fact that they damage performace with more unsprung weight, and testing has shown that measurably better slalom times can be made consistantly with 15"-16" wheels, that cost far less, and were actually the size our wheel openings were designed for). That being said, I think your wheels look totally bad ass- it's a great looking car. However, given the choice, I chose to splurge on my hood and spend the $1500 difference on Bilstien/Hypercoil coilovers at all four corners. So, you went to my page! Congrats on doing your homework. For the record, when my new intake was being ported and polished, my elbow was getting the ridges fiberglass filled and smoothed, and it's as slick as a baby butt inside. Got any more conclusions about my ride you want to jump to?
 
I have a cervinis ram air hood on my 88. It was on the car when I bought it and it looks good but right now isn't functional. I think it's about 120$ for the ram air insert and k&n filter. The way I see it is that the ram air feature is just another way for the motor to get the air it needs. Also what was said earlier about a K&N filter in the airbox doing the same thing as the ram air kit is wrong. The air tempature in the box is still the same with or without the K&N filter. Unless K&N has included a refrigeration feature. Ram Air= cooler intake temps