I need a wideband

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

Okay, this may be unrealistic but I need a wide band O2 for the Cobra and have $200 to spend. Can I get one? Which one should I go with?

Thanks for the input guys

BlownStangGT · Feb 13, 2009

Seems like some guys get the AEM from ebay but I havnt checked prices.....better start giving some plasma and saving those pennies

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

$199.99 free shipping........if you get one PLEASE let me know how it is....Im thinking of one as well!

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

So do I have to have another bung welded in the exhaust for that? Which side do I put the O2 sensor on?

2002BLGT · Feb 13, 2009

LaserSVT said:
So do I have to have another bung welded in the exhaust for that? Which side do I put the O2 sensor on?

turn off the rear o2s in the tune and use a rear o2 bung , summitracing.com , has the AEM widebands for $218 now

BlownStangGT · Feb 13, 2009

Yeah you could turn the rears off or some guys do have an extra bung welded in for the Wideband. I do not think it matters what side, but you can do some searching and see where most guys put them. I wanna get one as well

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

Coolio, just switch off the rears and use one of the bungs, got it. I think I will order the AEM on ebay for $200

It sounds like I will need it from what I understand. Can I data log with that?

And Willie, so I just do a data log with the sniper and another for the wideband and send them to you?

bakos24 · Feb 13, 2009

$199 or best offer + free shipping . You can probably get it for 180ish

Probably the cheapest you will find.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-UEGO-GAUGE-TYPE-6-IN-1-WIDEBAND-CONTROLLER-30-4100_W0QQitemZ260358078431QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item260358078431&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

EDIT: they also have a ton of these listed, so find one that does not have an offer and offer away

Flghtmstr1 · Feb 13, 2009

If you're looking for a cheap option, build (or buy) the DIY Wideband Meter. It can be found here: Built Oz DIY Wideband Units. You can buy it for $200, or build it yourself for $40-60. My buddy decided to build his, and it works fine.

Another good option is Innovate's LC1. It can be found here: LC-1 Lambda Cable with 02 Sensor : Wideband Controller Cable for Dyno, ECU, Data Acquisition, or Gauge Applications. I also know a guy who uses an LC1 with his MegaSquirt standalone. It also works well. The nice thing about the LC1 is that it's small and self-contained. The box can be mounted anywhere on the car; it's weatherproof.

Either are good options, and in fact, I have been deciding which one I want

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

bakos24 said:
$199 or best offer + free shipping . You can probably get it for 180ish

Probably the cheapest you will find.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-UEGO-GAUGE-TYPE-6-IN-1-WIDEBAND-CONTROLLER-30-4100_W0QQitemZ260358078431QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item260358078431&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

EDIT: they also have a ton of these listed, so find one that does not have an offer and offer away

Thanks, I am gonna send an offer of $180

Unless this is a better gauge?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Inno....c0.m245&_trkparms=72:543|65:12|39:1|240:1318

millhouse · Feb 13, 2009

What do you need it for? Do you want/need the ability to datalog?

Just a tid-bit of info, any wideband you go with has to be located before the cat's in your system.

Also, the lc-1 has the ability to emulate a narrowband signal on one of the analog outputs.

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

I dont have cats. I need a wide band cause I am tuning my car. If I can data log the car (with my Sniper software) and data log with a wideband then I can send that info to Sniper and get a custom tune without the expense/time/traveling to a dyno and get the tune just as good. Also when I do future upgrades it will be easier to remap the computer. Really I dont want one and am fine with my narrow band one I have but since my tuner and everyone else says I need a wide band to tune FI properly then I guess i have to bite the bullet and spend more money
I really thought I was done spending money on the Cobra for a while but i guess not

04sleeper · Feb 13, 2009

Bill,

I have the LC-1 in my car. It seems to work just fine for me although I hear they can be picky if installed incorrectly.

For the placement of the sensor, I would go upstream of the cats and have a bung welded in. Most widebands come with a bung for this. If you place the sensor in the rear O2 it will be too far back IMO.

Mine is welded a few inches behind the (Drivers Side) factory O2 sensor.

You want to put it into the drivers side because this is the side that will tend to read a little leaner between the 2 banks.

Also, be sure you solder every connection and be sure your grounds are up to par and follow the directions very carefully.

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

I dont have cats so I cant mount upstream of them

I get ya though. I like the looks of the AEM better but if the LC1 is a better unit then I would go that route

millhouse · Feb 13, 2009

LaserSVT said:
I dont have cats so I cant mount upstream of them

I get ya though. I like the looks of the AEM better but if the LC1 is a better unit then I would go that route

Honestly, they each have their ups/downs….but both would be a good choice.

Now if you are concerned about looks and had the funds, I’d say go with the xd-16 kit. It’s about $70 cheaper now than when I purchased mine!

Innovate Standalone Gauge Kit w\ LC-1 & XD-16 (16 in 1) Digital Gauge DIYAutoTune.com

It’s not simply a gauge only however….and has a built in high/low recall, programmable leds, recalibration function as well as a host of other functions.

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

If money were not an issue then I would get the PDX system with the LCD screens. Thoes look killer IMHO. The gauge is $200 then another $200 for the wideband

I think the AEM is the one I will get though

4tun8 · Feb 13, 2009

I run an AEM WB in my Evo.........it has a 5v output so if your tuning software will take a 5v input for wideband it should work.........may need some tweaking or support though not sure. I actually have to use a different cable to connect mine to the laptop but my ECUflash software recognizes the WB. To be completely honest I normally just tune by looking at it with my eyeball. Some things to remember though is you will see a little lag when eyeballing it.

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

4tun8 said:
I run an AEM WB in my Evo.........it has a 5v output so if your tuning software will take a 5v input for wideband it should work.........may need some tweaking or support though not sure. I actually have to use a different cable to connect mine to the laptop but my ECUflash software recognizes the WB. To be completely honest I normally just tune by looking at it with my eyeball. Some things to remember though is you will see a little lag when eyeballing it.

Sniper wont interface with it. Does it come with its own software to data log if hooked to my PC? If it cant do that then I wont get it cause thats the whole purpose of getting it
I was also hesitant about getting an AEM cause they are mostly an import tuner company and it just seems out of place in an American Pony car

4tun8 · Feb 13, 2009

You're silly if you think that AEM is an import tuner company. They make great stand alone ECU's regardless of of who they make them for.

Maybe I should take my carbon fiber shift bag and knob out of my GT because imports use CF stuff...........

LaserSVT · Feb 13, 2009

4tun8 said:
You're silly if you think that AEM is an import tuner company. They make great stand alone ECU's regardless of of who they make them for.

Maybe I should take my carbon fiber shift bag and knob out of my GT because imports use CF stuff...........

That was a joke

But does it come with the software to data log it?

And yes, I am silly. You must not be familiar with my work

4tun8 · Feb 13, 2009

There is some sort of primitive data logging the can be done with it, but I would not recommend it.

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