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  • Start date Start date Aug 16, 2005

mity2

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well, its official. I can not get my car aligned. Hanter aligning machine-which is lowest one i can find around here-is not low enough by looong shot. i might have shot if i drive on some 2X8 or something first, but noone around here is willing to do for whatever the reason. Right now, i'm eating up my 200dollar tire, as my car don't drive straight(almost, but not quite), camber angle all off, and who knows about toe angle. i'm really regretting even installing LT header(K-member came off, hense the messed up aligment). I did get alot of power, but it just isn't worth the pain .
So i'm out of ideas. only thing left to do is to raise the hight by changing it back to OEM spring, or something with alot less dropp like C-spring to gain hight? or do aligment myself, which i don't know if i can.


I'm out of idea, and just really bummed out right now...
 

tomustang

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Come on! I had sears do mine with sportlines. and you know there's tons of sears around. they didn't need any extra height for the lift either
 

mogs01gt

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I have never seen an alignment shop have equipment that a low car cant drive over. Most of the alignment machines are level with the ground and you drive on top of them.
 

mity2

I like Pro3 and all I got was this crappy CT.
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mogs01gt said:
I have never seen an alignment shop have equipment that a low car cant drive over. Most of the alignment machines are level with the ground and you drive on top of them.
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I know thats what i need. Pit type or flat on ground type. But noone have that around here i can find...

tomustang said:
Come on! I had sears do mine with sportlines. and you know there's tons of sears around. they didn't need any extra height for the lift either
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i did call Sears near my house. they just told me flat out they don't work on lowered car. and ****er even told me that no national chain store would toutch lowered car
 

mogs01gt

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Ford dealerships use the in ground aligning machine. Atleast the ones I have been inside do.
 

tomustang

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post that sears phone # i wanna give'em a call.
 

mity2

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it won't do any good. they use same Hanter aligning rack like anyone else around here, and even if they did say they would work on it, i still can get it on rack...
 

mogs01gt

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Have you spoke with a Ford repair shop yet?
 

mity2

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mogs01gt said:
Have you spoke with a Ford repair shop yet?
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U mean like dealer? that was my first stop
 

mogs01gt

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and they didnt have an inground machine?damn that sucks. Most around here do.
 

tomustang

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well you can also try collision shops. but i know the places you went a bull****ing you. I looked around alot to find a shop for alignment and kept getting rejected. so i smarted up and started asking when i called up if they aligned corvettes and said yes, so i caught them in a lie. then they had to accept me when i came in. they are just lasy.
 

mity2

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no, no inground aligment machine. noone around here ithat i can find...
 
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I work at a sears here in Iowa. We've aligned vehicles that are lowered. We had to use the truck rack to a lowered mustang on there due to it having a longer ramp to drive up. If he would of been any lower then we might not of been able to do it unless we try to buy some long planks for cars to drive on and off of.

The other thing is the Hunter machines that do the alignments have jacks on the front and rear and I've seen a few lowered vehicle that were not going to be able to clear them and would have the exhaust ripped off if people were not paying attention.

On top of that the alignment technically is not going to have a warranty cause it has been modified from stock. Says on the inside cover of both the work order and invoice. As long as you know the specs you need for your car it shouldn't be a problem.

It should be something like Stock toe, -0.05 camber and as much equal positive caster. That's at least what the guy wanted on his 94 mustang. If you get a chance take your car there and talk to them and ask them if they will do it with the specs you want for the car. Have them call me if they want while I'm working, just have them ask for Micah. They should be able to do it unless it's a small ass shop and they don't have the guys with much knowledge or willing to try to do it.

They probably wont be able to guarantee that it wont chew up your tires and not have a warranty really on the alignment unless it's something dead obvoius like the car is still pulling one way harder and just need to correct it. Not guaranteeing the tire wear is the big reason why most places wont align a lowered vehicle.
 

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Yeah with my pro's I'm close on most drive on lifts so with sports I can see it been too close. Have you though about getting a couple of peices of 2x10 and taking with you? Put them under the ramp and drive up. It's what we have to do with Mom's civic.
 

mity2

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Disturbed One said:
The other thing is the Hunter machines that do the alignments have jacks on the front and rear and I've seen a few lowered vehicle that were not going to be able to clear them and would have the exhaust ripped off if people were not paying attention.
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yep thats it. its not the front bumper that is probrem. I mean it is, but i can switch back to OEM bumper. its the side skirts that won't clear...

this is what i'm tryig to aligned to

Caster: Min 2.45 Max 3.95
Camber: Min -1.35 Max 0.15
Toe: Min 0 Max 0.25
 

mity2

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should i get Ford C-spring(1.2"&1"lowering) or Bullit or Mach1 spring(0.75" or 1" i think)?
 
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you have bilsteins so if you go with new springs, i do suggest HR race i've gotten about 1 inch front and 1/4 rear so far.... (day2)

also, look around for either speed shops or tire places like NTB, Tireking, or merchants. merchants will do any car regaurdless, they want EVERYONES business. I have a good rep with the local NTB and they said they would do my car no matter what i do to it, as long as we can figure out a way to get it on the rack

Torinalth
 
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Torinalth said:
you have bilsteins so if you go with new springs, i do suggest HR race i've gotten about 1 inch front and 1/4 rear so far.... (day2)

also, look around for either speed shops or tire places like NTB, Tireking, or merchants. merchants will do any car regaurdless, they want EVERYONES business. I have a good rep with the local NTB and they said they would do my car no matter what i do to it, as long as we can figure out a way to get it on the rack

Torinalth
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Funny thing is Sears owns NTB.
 
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tjm73

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Sorry but you guys all make me laugh.

You can do an alignment with a tape measure, a straightedge and an angle guage.

You don't need a fancy laser guided light sensing do all the thinking for you alignment machine.
 

mity2

I like Pro3 and all I got was this crappy CT.
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well, i can get camber angle easy enough. i can also do Caster angle easy enough. thank god for the C/C plate
but i do not know how to check nore adjast toe in&toe out, and set steering wheel straight...
 
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