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well guys I would love to have a cobra 32 valve motor in my '88 fox body. I am about to buy a brand new 4.6 DOHC engine from a friend for really really cheap. The motor goes to a 96 cobra. This is a spur of the moment "I want that modification" I want the power of the 4.6 DOHC. I am wondering if any of you guys know what it takes to convert my 88 5.0 fox to a 4.6 mod motor. I am going to need the motor, T56 trans, ECU, harnesses. Which harnesses do i need? Which computers will work? What has to be modified to fit the 4.6 motor? What needs to be modified to fit the T56 trans? I know this is alot to ask... but maybe you guys can give me some links to buy this stuff and some links to figure this ***** out!! I thank all of you for your considerations!!!
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go here www.modularfox.com everything you need. Make sure you come back with pics.

 

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thanks for the quick reply... hope that site helps me out big time!!!

 

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You don't need a T-56 by the way. I believe the early Cobras came with just the standard T-45 5 speed.

 

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Yes i believe the 96 cobras came with a t45 in them... I would love to have that beefy 6speed! i just need to know what the hard parts are gonna be. Will i have to relocate the trany crossmember? And so on.... I do not know of anyone in my area with a modular/t56 fox... I want to be that guy!!!

 

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Cool idea, hope you like the engine. The lowend torque wont be anywhere near the 5.0. Those engine head design made for an all topend HP car. Like 6K+. Anywho, have you even driven a car with a Ford T56?

I personally think they are the worst tranny ever produced by ford (shifting wise). I would reccomend a Viper spec T56.

I have driven 2 cobras (03-04) and HATE their t56. But I have driven an 02 SS and an 01 C5 vette, and absulutly loved their T56s...worlds better. Viper spec should be about the same as those and with a .50 OD . Just a warning I guess.
Good luck.

 

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that i will take into consideration. I still need to know where the best place to get all of the stuff i need... should i buy a doner car? Is the 4.6 swap really hard? What are some pointers that i can get...is there anyone in particular i should pm? PLEASE HELP ME!!!

 

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I think it would be far cheaper and much easier to just buy a 99+ Mustang...

 

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buying a 99+ mustang would just make my life easy! haha... i am in love with my fox convertable! I just want to do something that really no one has! I still need sources for info. Does anyone know where i can get some quick help?

 

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http://www.modularfords.com/forums/modular-conversions/

 

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that was an awsome site... that was the most useful site yet!!! thank you soo much!!

 

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hotmustang331 said:

Cool idea, hope you like the engine. The lowend torque wont be anywhere near the 5.0. Those engine head design made for an all topend HP car. Like 6K+. Anywho, have you even driven a car with a Ford T56?

I personally think they are the worst tranny ever produced by ford (shifting wise). I would reccomend a Viper spec T56.

I have driven 2 cobras (03-04) and HATE their t56. But I have driven an 02 SS and an 01 C5 vette, and absulutly loved their T56s...worlds better. Viper spec should be about the same as those and with a .50 OD . Just a warning I guess.
Good luck.

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Kinda of off-topic, but I must chime in. I have to disagree. Ford's T56 is quite solid. I've driven 5 Terminators, some aggressively modded, and the T56's are holding up quite nicely. The mileage range is from 5,000 to 45,000 and they all shift quite crisply.

 

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^ Well its a very solid tranny yes...but have have BIG problems shifting it. I cant shift the thing worth beans, even the sales man couldnt hit the gears lol. The clutch placement is all jacked up too.

I have drive alot of manual cars, and in my book takes the cake by far as the worst shifting tranny...in a car that is. LOL. But glad you didnt have a problem with it...guess this means the guy need to go drive one and see for himself.

 

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^ Well its a very solid tranny yes...but have have BIG problems shifting it. I cant shift the thing worth beans, even the sales man couldnt hit the gears lol. The clutch placement is all jacked up too.

I have drive alot of manual cars, and in my book takes the cake by far as the worst shifting tranny...in a car that is. LOL. But glad you didnt have a problem with it...guess this means the guy need to go drive one and see for himself.

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I hope this input helps him in what tranny he chooses.

Seriously, all the ones I have driven have done excellent. I have only driven two Vette's and one Viper equipped as such. They seemed to be close in nature, in my opinion.

I will concede that the T56 in the Mustang is horrible with the stock shifter.

 

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forget the 6sp, it's just s 5sp with 2 overdrives.

TKO-600 is what you should look at

 

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So Tim, the Cobras you drove had stock shifters in them? Or both? Maybe thats the deal, and I really appreciate the input on the subject...differnt views/experiances from different folks is what makes this a great place to hang out and learn things . So maybe its just me lol. Anyone else?


And Tom, the Ford T56 isnt just a M5 with an added OD. Its a differnt geared tranny....its designed with road racing in mind. = high 1st gear and close ratio 2-6. the viper/vette specs are essentially the same but 6th is .50 OD. and will fall on its face coming out of 5th to 6th. I agree TKO600 is the best bet.
That high 1st gear isnt the best for a launch at the strip, although alot of the KB guys like it with all their torque and say it really lets them get out there and pull.

 

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hotmustang331 said:

So Tim, the Cobras you drove had stock shifters in them? Or both? Maybe thats the deal, and I really appreciate the input on the subject...differnt views/experiances from different folks is what makes this a great place to hang out and learn things . So maybe its just me lol.

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2 of them still have their stock shifters on the T56s. The others are mixed between the Pro 5.0 and the MGW.

The T56 is quite the animal for a 6-speed, in my opinion. Tom mentions another fine product in the TKO 600. I have no qualms with that tranny either, other than it being vented towards a serious HP setup. Maybe the thread starter is not headed down that path...

 

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ah but that's not the point i'm getting to, the T-56 spec is a dual overdrive.

most 6spds don't have a 2 overdrive gears. basically anything below 1.00-1.10 ratio (marginal) is an over drive.

Cobra spec T-56
4th: 1.00
5th: 0.80
6th: 0.63

what i'm trying to get is 4th gear on a t-56 is usually geared at 5th on other 6 speeds

 

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all of you guys have opened my eyes on the whole tranny topic... The 4v motor that i am getting will have a eaton blower on it.. going with the eaton because they are cheap on ebay, and i already have a 10sec 347stroker in another car..So i wanna be fast but not too crazy. Going by the threads the t-56 is for me. I love to go to the drag strip and i also like to hit the high mph on the highway. But what is the best way to get my mustang wired up... how do i keep the factory gauges functional? or is that just not gonna happen? Is it true about what the one guy said about the 4.6 not having much lowend torque?