I Want to Make 450 N/A HP

woodyy24

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i have a jegs stock shortblock with about 5500 miles on it. some ported E7s with all the goodies, an E-cam, roller rockers, Edelbrock performer RPM intake and a holley 600 DP. BBK shortie equal lengths and BBK O/R x-pipe. MSD box, dizzy, and coil. and i also have an edelbrock wet nitrous system at a 75 shot.
the best i could do at the track was a 13.03 at 106mph (without the spray....no blow down tube)

desktop dyno says i should be making about 350 hp around 5500 rpm. and about 420 with the shot. it feels a bit less than that.

im going to have about $4500 to spend. i want a HCI combo that will be good for the street and still perform at the track and be able to take a 50-75 shot with no problems.

 

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331 stang91

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420 with the shot should get you well into the 12's My question would be what kind of suspension and tires are you running sometimes you just need a better suspension setup to get you et's down. What kind of et's are you looking for?

 

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stock short block wont put 450N/A hp IIRC

 

woodyy24

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331 stang91 said:

420 with the shot should get you well into the 12's My question would be what kind of suspension and tires are you running sometimes you just need a better suspension setup to get you et's down. What kind of et's are you looking for?

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southside upper and lower control arms, not sure what springs but the passenger rear has an airbag. spindles are off a 92 again not sure what springs the car came with. i had M/T 10.5 sportmans when i got the 13.03. i want to get into the low 12s. im sure the 75 shot will get me past the 12.99 mark but i dont know by how much.

either way i want to get some better heads for sure and a stouter cam.

 

TrickStang37

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like mentioned above, stock shortblock will not get you to 450hp na. and i doubt your making 350 hp with that setup.

 

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what he said

 

txstang84

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need more compression to make that kind of power on an N/A 302...and a big bumpstick...and really good heads...and spin it pretty high

 

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Stop playing with the 75 shot and jet up to 150. Also what size valves are in the ported e7's and what kind of port work is done?

 

woodyy24

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1.810 intake 1.455 exhaust
you can take a look at the exhaust ports there opened up pretty good, the intake ports have only been smoothed out.

 

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txstang84

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1.81"? you sure that's not 1.84" (351W)?

Honestly, I don't think 450 N/A is gonna happen with stock heads...even if they're hogged with 1.94" and 1.60" valves (which is as big as you can get from stockers)

You'll still need more compression-somewhere in the 10.5:1 or more-to make that power...you also need more cam timing, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 300* total, 240*+ @0.050 and lots of lift-THINK SOLID ROLLER!

...of course with that kind of setup, it'll end up making max power somewhere in the 6600-7200 rpm range, better have the bottom end put together well to handle the beating

 

txstang84

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I've got a set of 289 closed chamber heads that have been cut for big valves, and ported and polished on a flat top 302 in my garage, with an F-cam. Even with the 10.3:1 cr with the 54cc chambers, I'm not even thinking of making anymore than 325 N/A

 

stang8urimport

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Plain and simple.. you're not gunna make 450 hp on a stock shortblock. With 302 cubic inches, you'll need some yates style heads, a dart block, billet rods, crank, and 10,000 RPM with a huge solid roller cam. Doing this would cost you a loooooot more then just putting a 150 shot on your car now and make 400 rwhp... right at your 450 fwhp you're looking for. Just an idea...