Identify this motor by the heads?

jb1dsl · Jan 15, 2007

I got a roller motor today and the guy said it came out of a truck. I looked for numbers on the block but did not see them. Can you I dentify the year ands specs of the motor by the heads? The heads have never been off of the motor. the intake looks like one off a 94-95 mustang but it is out of a truck. the heads have 4b7 and 4b11 and a large t cast in them under the valve cover. im thinking it is a 94 maybe, let me know the specs( hp, c.r., type of pistons, etc). I will be breaking it down and rebuilding it with more performance parts. He gave me the stock crank, rods and pistons out of his 94 gt block. what was the comp. ratio of these motors? Are the stock 94 gt pistons hypers? Is there somewhere specific to look for the casting numbers besides the starter area?

Thanks
Brad

jb1dsl · Jan 15, 2007

i found some numbers close to where the starter goes. it looks like 4a23 or 4a28.

ozstang65 · Jan 16, 2007

Can't help much but I was always under the impression that the trucks had their EFI intake on the opposite side to a car. Might be one way to get some kind of initial impression.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

well the intake is on just like a car and it looks like a 94-95 gt style intake.

302 coupe · Jan 16, 2007

might be out of a thunderbird or cougar. Those numbers you're getting, aren't "casting numbers" per se. Should be like E7something or F4something. 4B11 doesn't mean anything.

Take a picture of what you have and post it. Sometimes you can tell what it came from by looking at the whole assembly.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

here are some pics

1red95gt · Jan 16, 2007

I think from the numbers you gave us from the heads that they are 94 heads....one is Feb. 7 and other is Feb. 11....i think? I think they are build dates?

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

thats what i was thinking just trying to get some back up.

302 coupe · Jan 16, 2007

looks like a t-bird engine, which I believe were HO motors, 215 hp. The casting number will be on the bottom side of the head, you have to remove the intake , then you can see the #'s between the pushrod holes. Should be E7TE's.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

where would the casting numbers be on the block?

302 coupe · Jan 16, 2007

just above the starter, might have to remove the starter to see them.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

i was reading and found where H.O. motors had 19 lb injectors (orange) and non-H.O. had grey injectors (Gray). the motor I got has orange so I guess it is a H.O.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

302 coupe,
no starter on the block and I looked but did not see any numbers. i was told to look in the lifter valley.

302 coupe · Jan 16, 2007

they must have moved them during the last few years of production. Seems odd though.....

You know its a roller cam 302 block, so its kind of pointless anyway, they're all the same.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

Yeah, I was just trying to verify if it was a H.O. and what it came out of.

Also found this chart on injectors:
Ford type II injector common ID colors
Light Gray= 14
Dark Gray= 17
Mustard Yellow= 19
Pink= 21
Light Blue= 24
Red= 30
Dark Blue= 36
Lime Green= 42's

302 coupe · Jan 16, 2007

it is an HO, and they were only offered in mustangs and t-birds/cougars with that intake setup, truck intakes were completely different. The mustang and t-bird engines are one in the same. So, whats the point? If, by some odd chance, it is a truck motor with HO intake and injectors swapped on, its still a roller block and has the same crappy heads. If it had GT or GTP on the heads, I'm assuming you would have mentioned it by now, that would mean it was in an Explorer, but even Explorers used different intake setup than what you pictured. And if you're gonna rebuild it anyway, you really don't need to concern yourself with the original application.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

just doing some research. I was verifying it was a H.O. because I may just do a stock rebuild.

D.Hearne · Jan 16, 2007

The roller 5.0 blocks have the casting numbers on the drivers side, in the bottom corner, next to the bellhousing.

D.Hearne · Jan 16, 2007

If that is indeed a T-Bird/Cougar HO 5.0, then it will have all the same parts the Stang HO had, with the exception of the camshaft. The camshaft will be the slightly milder "Cobra" GT40 cam. Pistons for all the 94-up 5.0's regardless of application are hypereutectics.

jb1dsl · Jan 16, 2007

i found these numbers on the drivers side bottom of the block. looking from up at the block it reads a 9 and below it FISE B B. then on the bottom ear of the block where the bellhousing attatches is this RF165482. Is this right or do i need to keep looking.

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