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1990Coupe

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Ok... as some know im in the market to get another stang finally.... Ive been looking at anything between 89-04.... not so much teh 96-98 4.6's but hey, if a nice enough one came around id bite.. here's where it gets interesting......

Good friend of my Girl's parents has a 1969.. possibly a boss 302 need to check the vin. Im close with them as well, the wife is a hairdresser and cuts my hair at there house... we got to talking and long story short they want to sell, they are having trouble getting the title. Offer is possibly on the table for me to pick it up for 5g's or less.... car was restored in the mid 80's needs lil interior things here and there... should i bite??? never considered an older stang? sorry for the long post!
 
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I would consider it if it's a fastback. If they will sell it for that price, it's certainly not a Boss.

Buying it just depends on how much you like it I guess. You won't want something like that for a daily driver, unless your used to old cars. Maybe you might like something like this.....

Cliff

http://classifieds.stangnet.com/showproduct.php?product=32617&sort=1&cat=17&page=11

Sorry, I had to do it. At least I'm not whoring pics.
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I'd buy it, 1986 and older in GA don't need a title.
 

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If you can get a 69 fastback of any type in decent shape for 5G's - DO IT! You won't get an opportunity like that again. At the least, you could buy it, get the title, fix up it's minor problems and sell it for 10K+. Or just keep it and have fun. I'd LOVE to own a 69 fastback.
 

1990Coupe

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Ok well once he gets the title ill consider it! i have to get some pics of it up for you guys!
 
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I woul dhave a very difficult time passing up something like this:



Was the 80's restoration a "body off" restoration? The reason I ask is that you're on the East Coast and those cars can hide a very significant amount of rust that'll be allot like being kicked in the nads when you find it.
 

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I came across this and thought it might be of some help to you:




Standard Guide To Classic Car Values 1969 Mustang Boss 302 46K Miles

#6 Condition = $1000
#5 Condition = $3,250
#4 Condition = $5,400
#3 Condition = $16,800
#2 Condition = $24,900
#1 Condition = $39,000

1) Excellent: Restored to current maximum professional standards of quality in every area, or perfect original with components operating and appearing as new. A 95-plus point show car that is not driven.

2) Fine: Well-restored, or a combination of superior restoration and excellent original. Also, an extremely well-maintained original showing very minimal wear.

3) Very Good: Completely operable original or "older restoration" showing wear. Also, a good amateur restoration, all presentable and serviceable inside and out. Plus, combinations of well-done restoration and good operable components or a partially restored car with all parts necessary to complete and/or valuable NOS parts.

4) Good: A driveable vehicle needing no or only minor work to be functional. Also, a deteriorated restoration or a very poor amateur restoration. All components may need restoration to be "excellent", but the car is mostly useable "as is".

5) Restorable: Needs complete restoration of body, chassis and interior. May or may not be running, but isn't weathered, wrecked or stripped to the point of being useful only for parts.

6) Parts Car: May or may not be running, but is weathered, wrecked and / or stripped to the point of being useful primarily for parts.
 
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Hey Daggar, it's pretty cool that somebody has that info available. What site did you find that info at? I'd like to check it out. I used to have links to similar info on an old puter then forgot about it.

It would be nice if the $$ were a little closer to reality though. You will never touch that car (a real BOSS 302) in any of those condition levels at those prices. You would have a hard time finding a base level big block 69 fastback in those conditions & prices. You can expect to pay about double those prices in the real world.

There is not a lot of these available, this is the only one I could post quickly. The reserve is set at $92k. Doesn't mean it will sell or that it's worth that much, but that's in the ball park of reality.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-BOSS302-MUSTANG-BOSS-302_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6236QQitemZ4641226160QQrdZ1

Personally, I'm not in it for the name and if I wanted a BOSS type stang I would just bolt a set of Cleveland heads on a regular worked 302. Beyond the heads (and slightly stronger internals) there is not a great deal of difference between a BOSS and a standard fastback.



If the car has no title, it's worthless in any condition, you can't register it. Of course if you had another 69 stang to switch VIN #'s with......

Cliff
 

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Daggar said:
The reason I ask is that you're on the East Coast and those cars can hide a very significant amount of rust that'll be allot like being kicked in the nads when you find it.
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you sound like u have personal experience, on this daggar? can i say ow?
 
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Daggar said:
The reason I ask is that you're on the East Coast and those cars can hide a very significant amount of rust that'll be allot like being kicked in the nads when you find it.
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My 67 fastback didn't hide rust at all.














That car showed it off proudly. I had never saw bondo rust before!
 

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WLDHRSE said:
I would consider it if it's a fastback. If they will sell it for that price, it's certainly not a Boss.

Buying it just depends on how much you like it I guess. You won't want something like that for a daily driver, unless your used to old cars. Maybe you might like something like this.....

Cliff

http://classifieds.stangnet.com/showproduct.php?product=32617&sort=1&cat=17&page=11

Sorry, I had to do it. At least I'm not whoring pics.
:SNSign: :SNSign: :SNSign: :SNSign:
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You stop whoring my dream car!! :SNSign:

If only I had the dough and a trailer...
 
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~FrankenStang~ said:
You stop whoring my dream car!! :SNSign:

If only I had the dough and a trailer...
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Trailer, WTF you talkin bout trailer.

That car will drive across the country just fine!

What you need is the dough and a good pair of sneaks for walking the 3000 miles to pick it up to drive home.

I'll treat you really good for your trouble.
 
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WLDHRSE said:
Hey Daggar, it's pretty cool that somebody has that info available. What site did you find that info at? I'd like to check it out. I used to have links to similar info on an old puter then forgot about it.

It would be nice if the $$ were a little closer to reality though. You will never touch that car (a real BOSS 302) in any of those condition levels at those prices. You would have a hard time finding a base level big block 69 fastback in those conditions & prices. You can expect to pay about double those prices in the real world.

There is not a lot of these available, this is the only one I could post quickly. The reserve is set at $92k. Doesn't mean it will sell or that it's worth that much, but that's in the ball park of reality.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-BOSS302-MUSTANG-BOSS-302_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6236QQitemZ4641226160QQrdZ1

Personally, I'm not in it for the name and if I wanted a BOSS type stang I would just bolt a set of Cleveland heads on a regular worked 302. Beyond the heads (and slightly stronger internals) there is not a great deal of difference between a BOSS and a standard fastback.



If the car has no title, it's worthless in any condition, you can't register it. Of course if you had another 69 stang to switch VIN #'s with......

Cliff
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There's a lot of truth to what he said here. The values listed in my post reflect book values and not actual consumer values. Just be very mindful that the car what you really want before paying more than the book on the car.

To the original poster: You say you can get the car for about $5K. That's pretty much inline with book so long as the car is not destroyed.

Again, numbers above are a book value, rule of thumb.

Edit: BTW.. to answer the question... I got the values from a classic car auction outfit that advertises on the web. Here's another link that might be interesting: http://www.kcclassicauto.com/pages/1969boss302specspage.htm
 

1990Coupe

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Daggar said:
There's a lot of truth to what he said here. The values listed in my post reflect book values and not actual consumer values. Just be very mindful that the car what you really want before paying more than the book on the car.

To the original poster: You say you can get the car for about $5K. That's pretty much inline with book so long as the car is not destroyed.

Again, numbers above are a book value, rule of thumb.

Edit: BTW.. to answer the question... I got the values from a classic car auction outfit that advertises on the web. Here's another link that might be interesting: http://www.kcclassicauto.com/pages/1969boss302specspage.htm
Click to expand...


Honestly the car is in very good condition. It was restored in 1982 (i asked) and yes it was a body off restoration. The car was used only on weekends. When they did the restoration, the numbers matching 302 was taken out and replaced with a 351w. Yes he said he'll give me the origional 302, it was actually in the garage with the car sitting under a tarp. I did as much of an inspection as i could do without taking out the interior (which there are pieces that need to be replaced like the door sills are scuffed and stuff like that) or putting it high in the air. so i can get an idea of what kinda shape its in. the suspension doesnt seem to bad at all, and looking under it, i didnt "see" any "visiable" rust. next time im over there ill snap a few. Also if they cant get the title, then im not getting the car simple as that. it would be useless to me if they cant get it.
 

1990Coupe

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Daggar said:
I came across this and thought it might be of some help to you:




Standard Guide To Classic Car Values 1969 Mustang Boss 302 46K Miles

#6 Condition = $1000
#5 Condition = $3,250
#4 Condition = $5,400
#3 Condition = $16,800
#2 Condition = $24,900
#1 Condition = $39,000

1) Excellent: Restored to current maximum professional standards of quality in every area, or perfect original with components operating and appearing as new. A 95-plus point show car that is not driven.

2) Fine: Well-restored, or a combination of superior restoration and excellent original. Also, an extremely well-maintained original showing very minimal wear.

3) Very Good: Completely operable original or "older restoration" showing wear. Also, a good amateur restoration, all presentable and serviceable inside and out. Plus, combinations of well-done restoration and good operable components or a partially restored car with all parts necessary to complete and/or valuable NOS parts.

4) Good: A driveable vehicle needing no or only minor work to be functional. Also, a deteriorated restoration or a very poor amateur restoration. All components may need restoration to be "excellent", but the car is mostly useable "as is".

5) Restorable: Needs complete restoration of body, chassis and interior. May or may not be running, but isn't weathered, wrecked or stripped to the point of being useful only for parts.

6) Parts Car: May or may not be running, but is weathered, wrecked and / or stripped to the point of being useful primarily for parts.
Click to expand...


I would say the condition is borderline between 3 and 4.. only because things are there but not installed. like the fog lights in the grill are brand new in the box but not installed on the car, along with some trim pieces that are brand new just not installed.
 
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Man... if it were me, I don't think I could pass on a deal like that. Boss or not, I've always like that body style.

Edit: ...and I think the Magnum 500 wheels are probably my favorite wheels ever! If the car you're l9oking at doesn't have em... get some. hehe
 

1990Coupe

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Daggar said:
Man... if it were me, I don't think I could pass on a deal like that. Boss or not, I've always like that body style.

Edit: ...and I think the Magnum 500 wheels are probably my favorite wheels ever! If the car you're l9oking at doesn't have em... get some. hehe
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yea the car doesnt have mags on it, but they are piled up in the garage and those will be included... it has some ugly craigers on it.. definatly not for that car at all.. lol.. a buddy of mine pointed me out to these. they are 17inch torque thrusts.. what do u think??

 
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They would be my first choice!
 
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