is it a diamond or fools gold?

[pb_paulie_b]

hey there all. i jes recently bought a boat! i paid $800 for the boat and the trailer. the owner told me that the motor was an old chevy 427. after a quick inspection it is in fact a FORD 427 now my question is, is it worth anything??? it wont turn over . but i got it for the boat and trailer anyway. what is you peoples opinion? put it in the mustang ? thanks much!

 

[stangbear427]

It'll go in. Most of periphrial parts aren't the same, but the engine itself is better- and the right stuff will bolt on. Not gonna be an econo car though! We're talking about 400-450HP n/a, @ about 8mpg. What a stump puller though...

 

[87GTPrimer]

What type of 427 is it? A Side Oiler, a Cammer?. What type of heads? Medium Riser, High Riser, Tunnel Port? Single or dual plane intake? Carbs? 1x4, 2x4, 3x2? What are the casting #s on the block and head? Could you maybe get some pics up. Or send some to me at [email protected]. They made alot of variations of the 427 FEs. If Had the casting #s of the block and heads, or maybe some pics I could pull the specs on it for you.

 

[bluecollar]

fix it and leave it in the boat. i wish i had a v-8 in my boat

 

[Michael Yount]

A lot depends on the shape of the motor. If it's an FE-series 427 for real, there's certainly a market for it - although dropping it in the front of a fox body would make for interesting handling due to the 'boat anchor' weight of it. They are also an extremely tight fit in just about anything there were in - just saw one in a 69 Stang and the #1 and 5 headers were both touching the spring/shock towers. The problem with boat engines is that they were often cooled with the water they ran in -- and can frequently be loaded up with mineral deposits, corrosion, etc. You'll have to get some data to jg so he can tell you what you've got. It'll take a tear down to see what kind of shape it's in internally - although if you pull something off so you can see in a coolant passage it may give you a clue (t'stat, sending unit, etc.).

Oh, and you've got to do something about the mixed metaphor in the title.

 

[pb_paulie_b]

i've never seen an inboard boat v8 before so this thing looks weird! where can i read the #'s off the block? also it looks to have a 2 barrel carb on it. the valve covers say mercruiser 235 hp. how do i tell what "rise" it is?? i do know this, it's not a cammer! it does look alot fatter then my 5.0. thanks guys for helpin

 

[pb_paulie_b]

welp i can see the casting numbers on the block, but i can't read them cause the starter is in the way. i did get it unstuck though. i put oil in the plug holes and did the ol' braker bar on the crank pulley trick . i wont start. maybe left over oil is foulin the plugs out. it's ah lock i'll keep try'in PB.

 

[DCjuggalo]

8 mpg? sheesh..

 

[stangbear427]

Carburated big block baby! Nothing goes from gas station to gas station faster

 

[iwashmycar]

Carburated big block baby! Nothing goes from gas station to gas station faster

I wish I had a 427

 

[Stang8URMPRT]

I get 9 MPG in my 306 But it's fun to drive.

Nick

 

[TrophyHead]

I just passed up on a 78 F-250 4X4 with a 427 in it. The guy only wanted 800 bucks for it. If it wasnt for the gas prices and my already gas guzzling car I would have bought it. It seemed pretty powerfull.

Good luck on the boat it sounds like a ripper.

 

[87GTPrimer]

Try finding the head casting number, it should be between the center exhuast ports on either head. It will be something like C5AE-F. A C5AE-F is a 427 Medium riser head. Does the block have cross-bolt Mains? (Look for bolts going into the side of the block right above the oil pan) All 427s and many 406 have these. Also, if there small (roughly 1/2 inch) oil plugs above these bolts then its a side oiler. Also look for the Block #s. They are normally found on the passinger side of the block and should be something like C4AE-A, which is '64 top-oiler 427. I've never heard of a 427 with a 2 barrel. Probaly used to save gas. Does it have a single or dual plane intake?

 

[5.0Droptop]

I know a guy who wants to sell a 427, its disassembled but most of its there.

 

[65ShelbyClone]

Well, since we have yet to see pictures, let alone casting numbers, whos to say it isnt a regular old 2v 390?

Years ago my dad traded a 390 GT engine for some guy's top-oiler 427 out of a boat. I guess the guy couldnt keep the 427 tuned and just wanted a cruiser ski boat.

 

[87GTPrimer]

yeah, it sounds like is probaly is just a run of the mill 2v 390. without casting # or a better description, there's no way of telling if its a 427. Could be 352, a 390, or even a 468, or anything in between, who knows

 

[k12]

I heard somewhere that boat motors turn in the opposite direction of car motors. Is there any truth to that?

 

[65ShelbyClone]

I heard somewhere that boat motors turn in the opposite direction of car motors. Is there any truth to that?

No. It would be easier to build a jet or V-drive that would work with the regular rotataion of an automotive engine. Besides, when my dad traded the 390 for the 427, it was a direct swap. Dropped right in his Mach 1 and went like hell.

 

[Js5ohLX]

I put a Chevy 350 boat motor in a car for a friend, and it ran backwards. Just a cam swap fixed it.